Question (and debate).

[Centauri]

Originally Posted by Veritas

How do I know that? Look around you. It's pretty clear. I could ask how do you know we even exist? How do you know that this isn't a fake reality?

It's not an arguements to ask "how do you know" to everything.

It is an argument to ask "how do you know that" - to you.

I take a look around me and I find it abundantly clear that there is no god or gods, especially not the one you have deluded yourself into believing.

Biology, physics, astronomy, chemistry - all beautiful, and all without the slightest shred of evidence that it was made by a sky fairy.

[Goldenmane]

Originally Posted by Veritas

You people are trying to use science in philsophy.

Oh dear.

You think philosophy ... what, means something?

Why stare into your navel (or in this case, other people's) when there's a whole fucking universe out there to explore?

[Veritas]

Hitler was a catholic? He killed 100,000 priest and millons of catholics. And full support from the Vatican? They rescued thousands of Jews in secret during the war.

And pedophile priests? It's less than .5% of catholic priests. And the church is and institute made of humans. Humans are flawed. Bad people exist.

Your claims are slanderous and ignorant.

[davo]

Originally Posted by Veritas

How do I know that? Look around you. It's pretty clear. I could ask how do you know we even exist? How do you know that this isn't a fake reality?

It's not an arguements to ask "how do you know" to everything.

Mate, you are the one walking in here saying a magic man did it, that this man does stuff that is totally illogical, that we have seen NOTHING in existence do, based on claims you have no evidence for whatsoever, then just saying your god doesn't have to be subject to the same claims you make about the universe.

and you think this is reasonable huh?

[Goldenmane]

Originally Posted by Veritas

Care to tell me what I haven't addressed?

My first post in this thread, as it happens, which was a direct response to your first post regarding your religion being 'reasonable'.

You haven't addressed a goddamn word of it.

[ABridgeTooFar]

So far today i have learnt that everything needs a cause. EXCEPT GOD OF COURSE!!!!!!!LOL!!!!

How the fuck does that work? Either everything needs a cause including God or it doesn't.

[Goldenmane]

Originally Posted by Veritas

You state that the universe has always existed. May I see evidence?

Who is this addressed to? I haven't seen anyone state that.

[Veritas]

Yes, philsophy fucking means something!

Why don't you deny western culture buddy?

Read some Plato, or aristotle.

[ABridgeTooFar]

Originally Posted by Veritas

Yes, philsophy fucking means something!

Why don't you deny western culture buddy?

Read some Plato, or aristotle.

Or you provide a good reason for God not having to comply with the universal rules you stated yourself. Either EVERYTHING has a cause or it doesn't.

[Veritas]

Of course God doesn't need a cause. That's the whole arguement, that's the nature of God. He is the unmoved mover.

Learn some metaphysics.