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Old 17th April 2010, 01:17 AM
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.....What is the criteria that the New Atheism would recommend to its members for reading the sacred texts of Judaism, Christianity and Islam, the three related by the same idea of God (as being one) and the same prophets?
What? New Atheism?? Ok...... onwards and upwards here...... Criteria???? Dont really know what you're on about here as I cant imagine why any atheists would recommend anyone (Atheism, doesnt have members), to read those texts. Now, Claudia, would probably be a good time to review the definition of Atheism.
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Old 17th April 2010, 01:22 AM
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A Mormon fantasy claims that Jesus travelled to the United States as well, so whats your point Claudia? Is it a profession of love for conspiracy theories, or are you presenting some badly thought out nonsense as fact?

The only substitute presented in your post is that of logic for fallacy.
There exist another Easter legend telling us that Jesus in reality was alive when his body was release by Pontius Pilate after the insistence of Nicodemus and Joseph of Arimathea, who offered a tomb where to bury Jesus.

This theory, which sound a little more plausible, goes that at the night of that Friday, Nicodemus and Arimathea came in the darkness to see if everything was “in calm” and nobody will attempt to take the body. They heard noises inside and it turned out to be Jesus himself, who was recovering consciousness.

In this version, Jesus went to India, where he died at an old age. There is a tomb in Kashmir, which bears Jesus’ name. And it is venerated by pilgrims.
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Old 17th April 2010, 01:32 AM
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What? New Atheism?? Ok...... onwards and upwards here...... Criteria???? Dont really know what you're on about here as I cant imagine why any atheists would recommend anyone (Atheism, doesnt have members), to read those texts. Now, Claudia, would probably be a good time to review the definition of Atheism.
Annie, you assume that religious beliefs are false, and so, you don’t read the sacred texts (Torah, Gospels, Koran, ect), you don’t have to explain them, but just to explain them away. However, how are you going to explain them away if you don’t know anything about these books? It puzzles me.
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Old 17th April 2010, 01:44 AM
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Claudia, do you even understand why you're on Fantasy Island?
Why is it that you turn toward a skeptical critique of my posts, in the form of a personal attack of what you said is my belief in an inexistent God? Fantasy Island is a place for the discussion of belief. Discussion requires serious analysis and logical investigation.
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Old 17th April 2010, 02:08 AM
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Claudia, do you even understand why you're on Fantasy Island?
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Why is it that you turn toward a skeptical critique of my posts, in the form of a personal attack of what you said is my belief in an inexistent God? Fantasy Island is a place for the discussion of belief. Discussion requires serious analysis and logical investigation.
I guess I should take that as a "NO".
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Old 17th April 2010, 02:23 AM
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This theory, which sound a little more plausible, goes that at the night of that Friday, Nicodemus and Arimathea came in the darkness to see if everything was “in calm” and nobody will attempt to take the body. They heard noises inside and it turned out to be Jesus himself, who was recovering consciousness.

In this version, Jesus went to India, where he died at an old age. There is a tomb in Kashmir, which bears Jesus’ name. And it is venerated by pilgrims.
This idea has been going around for some time. They have been refuted convincingly by scholars, and not just of the conservative type. Just because it sounds more plausible does not make it anymore plausible. Even if it were true, reliable evidence is lacking. We may have to live with the fact that we will never know exactly what happened during the easter period, rather than creating stories weak on substance. You may like to read this. In fact, I recommend it. http://westarinstitute.org/Periodica...les/tibet.html
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I know what's up with that?
Who edited my post?




PS: Claudia is a troll. She has posted the same thread verbatim on Atheist Nexus.

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Old 17th April 2010, 08:56 AM
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hazzuh! Do you know all about leprechauns Claudia?

How can you seriously just explain them away without studying all the 'evidence'? There is a vast amount of sacred texts with regarding them. Indeed we can follow this evidence in various formats to the earliest historical records.

I really think you should study leprechauns.

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Annie, you assume that religious beliefs are false, and so, you don’t read the sacred texts (Torah, Gospels, Koran, ect), you don’t have to explain them, but just to explain them away. However, how are you going to explain them away if you don’t know anything about these books? It puzzles me.
If you look into this Claudia you will realize many are ex-theists and HAVE read the "sacred text" such as the Gospels and Qurans and Torahs etcetera. I used to be a Muslim for example. Black used to be a Christian for example. In fact I reckon many who are replying and asking you questions are probably ex-theists themselves and have probably read the books much more than other theists have.

Have you read them yourself? Also, what religious belief is the correct one, and why? Also, I think you should answer everybody else's questions, and answer them with your own words, rather than merely posting somebody elses' words, and if you've posted the same words elsewhere, a link will do fine.

You need more substance in your posts I reckon. Everybody else is asking questions, and you just regurgitate other peoples' fluff from the beyond.

Before accusing others of not reading your texts, I recommend reading them yourself. You may be in for a bit of a shock.
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Old 17th April 2010, 09:01 AM
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hazzuh! Do you know all about leprechauns Claudia?

How can you seriously just explain them away without studying all the 'evidence'? There is a vast amount of sacred texts with regarding them. Indeed we can follow this evidence in various formats to the earliest historical records.

I really think you should study leprechauns.

definitely! We wouldn't want their memeplex to die out now, would we?
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