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Old 24th September 2010, 06:46 PM
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I've actually hoped that either the mor(m)ons or jw's pay a visit to our door in recent times. In the few weeks I've been here I've learnt so much more about actively critically thinking about the belief systems and feel better prepared already on how to get them to try (and I guess ultimately fail) at convincing me that their religion is the right way.
But, then, I suppose I probably shouldn't ask for such conflict. Hard to resist though...

By the way, if we do get bikes, I got dibs on a red one.
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Old 24th September 2010, 08:11 PM
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I've actually hoped that either the mor(m)ons or jw's pay a visit to our door in recent times.
I always want then to come a knockin'. A couple of months ago they actually did, the only problem was, I was under the car changing the gear box oil and it was pretty hard to go "full contact" with her, she had to leave the flier under the windscreen wiper and keep going. Saddest day of my life.
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Old 25th September 2010, 03:54 AM
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I with Deanus-Maxiums on this one. I've learnt a lot about religion and critical thinking over the last few weeks. Almost want someone who I can test myself against.

But I think that in the 10 years that I have lived here, I have seen only about 3 or 4 religious door knockers. I'm not holding my breath for some anytime soon.

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Old 3rd October 2010, 07:37 AM
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I've long since given up 'debating' with extremists: there is no point. It's far more useful to debate with marginals. Not only is there a possibility of a conversion but you might hear some interesting arguments (tho obviously flawed, of course!!!).

On the question of have we started door knocking - maybe that is not the way to go, but what we should all be doing is placing good atheist logic in all forums that we participate in, and providing an alternative viewpoint when the Jesus or Mohammed freaks present their warped ideas..... do we all do that???? Or do we just chat amongst friends in here??
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Old 3rd October 2010, 08:01 AM
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I had occasion to engage in a lengthy 'talk' with a jw door knocker.
His kung fu was weak, they are mostly trained to speak to people with existing belief in order to convert them.

The arguments put up are appeals to wonder, watches requiring watchmakers etc..
I have some jw family members who left me the Atheist issue of awake!
I think they may be on to me
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Old 3rd October 2010, 09:47 AM
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I am still very upset by what the JW's did to my friend when they converted him.

He can't seem to stop being 'actively' gay (no surprise there!) but now he can't stop with the JW, self-hatred, gay-bashing, talk while he's doing it.

Arggh....!
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Old 3rd October 2010, 10:08 AM
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Ok, time to start door knocking, and marching up and down with atheist signs onna stick.
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Old 3rd October 2010, 08:15 PM
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Old 3rd October 2010, 08:44 PM
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I am still very upset by what the JW's did to my friend when they converted him.

He can't seem to stop being 'actively' gay (no surprise there!) but now he can't stop with the JW, self-hatred, gay-bashing, talk while he's doing it.

Arggh....!
Ms Angel, without any wish to pry, that is extremely sad, given the way JW's view homosexuality (similiarly to other conservative religions, apparently). Given the potential for disfellowshipping and shunning, wouldn't the conflict between his orientation and JW doctrine be making his life situation somewhat untenable?

I guess I'm confused as to how someone in his position, would view and deal with this sort of internal conflict?
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Old 3rd October 2010, 09:09 PM
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Love your work Goldenmane
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