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Old 22nd July 2017, 06:50 PM
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Dawkins is quite correct that as presently framed the deplatforming does not reference any instances said to constitute abuse of Islam.
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I would ban Dawkins for using very large font.
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This story has nothing to do with UC Berkeley.

It is about a radio station which is in the city of Berkeley.
correct. after I re-read the entire text a couple more times I realised this was the case, but I could not change the post title
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Free speech is alright providing you do not offend anyone. That is what governments say. Yeah right: what constitutes offence varies from one person to the next.I note also that 'adherents' to certain religions are much more quickly 'offended' than for instance Christians. What happened to Richard Dawkins is typical of different standards being applied depending on what the subject is and the associated religion. True free speech is long gone as far as I am concerned and I increasingly also get upset at the preoccupation with political correctness.
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Free speech is alright providing you do not offend anyone. That is what governments say. Yeah right: what constitutes offence varies from one person to the next.I note also that 'adherents' to certain religions are much more quickly 'offended' than for instance Christians. What happened to Richard Dawkins is typical of different standards being applied depending on what the subject is and the associated religion. True free speech is long gone as far as I am concerned and I increasingly also get upset at the preoccupation with political correctness.
"Free" speech has always had a price, from way back when you could say what you wanted but Ogg might club you.

"Political correctness" is a very slippery term, IT. What in particular do you hate?
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Here is one example of political correctness. In the Netherlands, the 'Zwarte Piet' (Black Peter) character is part of the annual feast of St Nicholas which is celebrated on 5 December each year. He is supposed to be the helper of the 'Saint' and amuses children. This character was introduced in 1850 and often (there are actually multiple Black Peters) he paints his face black. There is a historical significance behind this but I won't go into that. St Nicholas feast has been celebrated for much longer before 1850. Just lately, the Dutch have copped increasing criticism for portraying a black person and stand accused of being racists, especially by those in other countries. Do you know, it had never before been realised in The Netherlands that this could one day (in a more modern setting) be construed as a containing racist elements. Black Peter, by the way, is supposed to be a black Moor from Spain in the dim past. As a child, we celebrated St Nicholas and we received presents on that day. It is only during the last few years that I have found out that these days there is a growing opposition to St Nicholas having a black helper (helpers).

Other examples are:
Happy Christmas should become Happy Holidays lest non-Christians are offended.
Nativity scenes no longer appear in some child care centres. Afterall, they could offend non-Christians.
In 2010, some UK bosses axed tiny pigs from children's toy farm sets just in case Muslims and Jew might take offence
Perhaps blackboards should be called chalkboards (yes, this came up as well).
You should not say that Police are looking for an Aboriginal man as the very mention of this could be seen as a whole race being targeted.
Last year's Red Cross Pool Safety Poster came under fire as there were apparently proportionally more coloured kids being portrayed as naughty.
I can see a time come when place names like Blackwood and Blackburn must be changed just in case someone could draw a racist inference from the name.
So TIMB, these are just a small handful of examples.
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