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And when they don't?
then we have a problem

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I've seen happy-clapper parishioners who thoroughly believed in the concept of a united lobby organisation of gay folk, likewise one of xtianity-haters.

It's almost a shame the reality is more like cat-herding.
I think this is a different situation. I was referring to the labeling of people as 'progressive' or 'regressive' or any other label really.

that people believe all sorts of weird stuff is not new or surprising.

when you combine the two (susceptibility to silly beliefs + labels) you get an explosive mix as we are witnessing in the US. Trump is right and NYT/WP are wrong. irrespective of what the claim actually is.
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@StubK: Thanks for the clarification.
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Regressive: Wants things to go back to how they used to be

Conservative: Wants to keep things as they are now

Progressive: Wants change (from how things are now and from how things used to be).

Of course how these labels are used in the real world is far more nuanced.
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The Dangerous Delusions of Richard Dawkins

http://www.alternet.org/belief/dange...ichard-dawkins


Even if you don't like Dawkins, this article is a POC.


and the rebuttal


https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress...s-youd-expect/
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Yeah nah great meandering thread.

I read each linky and comments below the latter.

I have read the first two installments of Dawkins's Science in the Soul: Selected Writings of a Passionate Rationalist 2017.

'The values of science and the science of values.'
'Speaking up for science: an open letter to Prince Charles.'

This makes the 13th Dawkins I have read. They are all profound. I can't recall reading a line in any of these that I found irksome. The reverse is the case. His books are eminently educative and edifying. I am indebted. I have got much more from them than the best and correct explanation of the workings of evolution. Dennett is another.

It seems to me, therefore, that people can be uncharitable toward Dawkins where they wouldn't be toward Hitchens because of prejudices. Hitch was indeed sexy after all. Dawkins dedicates the book to his dearly missed friend and comrade.
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OK. Dawkins has been announced for GAC. let's see if anyone complains.
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It seems to me, therefore, that people can be uncharitable toward Dawkins where they wouldn't be toward Hitchens because of prejudices. Hitch was indeed sexy after all. Dawkins dedicates the book to his dearly missed friend and comrade.
I read "The Selfish Gene" ages ago, before Dawkins had written "The God Delusion". At the time I was fired up by Jared Diamond's "The Third Chimpanzee". It was the first science book I'd read for pleasure. It fired me up and I wanted more science. "The Selfish Gene" made allusions to atheism and science fiction, using the work of Fred Hoyle to expand on some of Dawkins' themes. It was just electrifying, so personal and accessible and completely in tune with my own observations and thoughts.

Yes there have been things he's said that have been a bit off - same for Hitchens and Harris. I don't demand perfection, nor do I want to blandly use the word "nuance" as an excuse. But yeah, Dawkins IS one of our top guns, and I'm still a fan.
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Dawkins's latest book Science in the Soul: Selected Writings of a Passionate Rationalist won't let you down. This is a compilation of writings, essays, journalism, lectures and letters over the years, on science, what else?
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