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I hope there is police involvement at this point.

Very definite and personal threats there.
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From Clementine Ford tonight. Boys Will Be Boys.

'Friends, I am absolutely THRILLED to share the news that I have signed a contract with my publisher to write another book. "Boys Will Be Boys" will be published by Allen & Unwin in late 2018.
So let me tell you a little bit about it!
In 'Fight Like A Girl', I explored the multitude of ways girls and women are subjected to pain, violence and humiliation. In many of these circumstances, we are also blamed and shamed for the hurt inflicted on us. 'When will you girls learn?!' is a common catchcry, as if we are not fully aware of the dangers the world poses for us, or the ways we are sneered at when we speak about it.
But when boys and men are responsible for this harm, they're often coddled and excused by their families, their communities and a broader society that knows nothing about them except for the one thing that counts most: boys will be boys.
Why are people so content to accept this explanation for behaviour that harms others, and to do so even when it crosses over into criminal territory? Why is the freedom of boys to exert their power over space, bodies and entitlement considered so much more important than the dignity and humanity of those harmed in this process - including the boys and men unable or unwilling to collude in this power? And why, in acknowledging that this problem might exist at all, do people seem more concerned that the women they know will be its victims and less concerned that the men they know will be its perpetrators?
'Boys Will Be Boys' will examine toxic masculinity and the bonds of brotherhood that are used to codify male power, access and protection (or ‘brotection’, as some people call it). From rape jokes on Facebook to reddit to MRA groups and the outer corners of the internet and all the way inwards to the annals of power - the political parties, the legislators, the private school boys - this book will turn a sharp eye toward a masculinity that is presented as ever expansive but is in reality exceptionally limited.
I will bring the same uncompromising fury and compassion to this project as I did 'Fight Like A Girl'. With that book, I took a commonly used phrase employed to casually denigrate girls and repurposed it for something more powerful. 'Boys Will Be Boys' will do the same thing, taking hold of an extremely common sentiment bandied about without thought and repurposing it to expose just how damaging it is for everyone - boys included.
Boys can and will be many things, yet they are still moulded according to reductive ideas about what they *should* be. I wrote 'Fight Like A Girl' as a love letter to girls and women, a recognition of their struggles and the truth of their reality. 'Boys Will Be Boys' will, above all, be a love letter to my son.
BOYS WILL BE BOYS: An exploration of power, patriarchy and the toxic bonds of brotherhood (Allen & Unwin, 2018)
[Image: black and white image of the smiling author holding a signed contract. Parts of the contract have been redacted in the image for privacy purposes.]"
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I hope there is police involvement at this point.

Very definite and personal threats there.
What is discussed in this article has been my experience:

http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/news...23-gwxjdm.html
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I hope there is police involvement at this point.

Very definite and personal threats there.
What is discussed in this article has been my experience:

http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/news...23-gwxjdm.html
That reaction from the police is a joke.

Police attitudes to harassment and bullying obviously need to change.
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As I have access to some of the AFA FB data, check this out.

Can you guess where the Clementine Ford announcement happened and then the actual result of that announcement?

Seems the result is that people (read women, yes they really are people) felt more included. Imagine trying to include more than half the population?
Are you going to post that on the FB feed?

I reckon it may be a a good idea to make the point that the announcement was actually positively received (opposite of what some MRA trolls were claiming would happen).
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As I have access to some of the AFA FB data, check this out.

Can you guess where the Clementine Ford announcement happened and then the actual result of that announcement?

Seems the result is that people (read women, yes they really are people) felt more included. Imagine trying to include more than half the population?
Are you going to post that on the FB feed?

I reckon it may be a a good idea to make the point that the announcement was actually positively received (opposite of what some MRA trolls were claiming would happen).
It's too soon. It would just fire everyone up again. I've had enough of dealing with crap people for a few days.
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As I have access to some of the AFA FB data, check this out.

Can you guess where the Clementine Ford announcement happened and then the actual result of that announcement?

Seems the result is that people (read women, yes they really are people) felt more included. Imagine trying to include more than half the population?
Are you going to post that on the FB feed?

I reckon it may be a a good idea to make the point that the announcement was actually positively received (opposite of what some MRA trolls were claiming would happen).
It's too soon. It would just fire everyone up again. I've had enough of dealing with crap people for a few days.
You could fire them up and run.

I am happy to deal with.
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