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Old 2nd March 2017, 11:20 PM
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Actually most christians will not have read the bible much or consider it when they talk about being christian.
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Actually most christians will not have read the bible much or consider it when they talk about being christian.
Yeah, but the well read Christians seem to have an understanding of the arcane deeper meanings that are beyond what common plebs can absorb. Or so they say. It must be very profitable to be a successful Christian author.
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I understand that the "Left Behind" series was very popular among the young christian crowd at one time. That delves into the "hooray we are saved but you suckers are in for it and I told you so" attitude.

Quite a few of my moderate christian friends liked Bishop Spong's work such as Rescuing the Bible from Fundamentalism.
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I understand that the "Left Behind" series was very popular among the young christian crowd at one time. That delves into the "hooray we are saved but you suckers are in for it and I told you so" attitude.

Quite a few of my moderate christian friends liked Bishop Spong's work such as Rescuing the Bible from Fundamentalism.
Thanks very much Dan, that helps me a lot too.
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I would go for a really good, academic and exhaustive study on the history of Christianity preferably written by a skeptical historian. There are a few about.
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I would go for a really good, academic and exhaustive study on the history of Christianity preferably written by a skeptical historian. There are a few about.
Like Thomas L. Thompson?
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I would go for a really good, academic and exhaustive study on the history of Christianity preferably written by a skeptical historian. There are a few about.
Like Thomas L. Thompson?
No the Aquinas one.
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This looks good.

A History of Christianity: The First Three Thousand Years

by Diarmaid MacCulloch
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6...f-christianity

MacCulloch's book on the Reformation is considered one of the best on the subject, it is a masterful work, imo.

I havnt read this one but MacCulloch is no christian cheer leader, you'll get the good and the bad with equal treatment i'd imagine. Published 2010, so up to date and 1000 pages long, that should cover the issues at hand. Actually, i've just talked myself into buying it!
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