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Old 28th November 2015, 06:14 PM
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I believe atheism IS the light at the end of the tunnel for humanity.
I'd be more inclined to think it just a part of getting there, if I thought we were in a tunnel at all. ;D

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Old 29th November 2015, 01:03 PM
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I believe atheism IS the light at the end of the tunnel for humanity.
I'd be more inclined to think it just a part of getting there, if I thought we were in a tunnel at all. ;D

Hi L, welcome
I agree. Atheism removes a lot of BS but there is still plenty more to go around. Atheism is an enabler though.
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Old 30th November 2015, 01:14 PM
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I started to notice how sombre and negative everything about religion is, and that the reason for this was because it focused so much on death and punishment, rather than life and love. Essentially, how uplifting can something be when it focuses on the single most terrifying concept for most people on Earth?
This is my problem with it and I share the views of Alice Miller who rightly points out that Isaac sacrificed his own son for God. This is such an apt metaphor for the mechanism of child abuse and the role traditional morality plays in perpetuating the lies to which we are all subjected as children. The hypocrisy! You must sacrifice your child for God to be good!

Or give up your illusion of the God figure and be good to your child?

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Old 1st December 2015, 11:09 AM
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Oh yes, of course.

I speak only of souls in the mortal sense. As in, the soul lives in the conscious brain, and dies with it.
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Old 1st December 2015, 11:10 AM
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Thank you kindly :-)
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Old 1st December 2015, 12:16 PM
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I believe atheism IS the light at the end of the tunnel for humanity.
This quote right here, fucking majestic. Beautifully said. Welcome.
Stay away from the light, its prolly a train.

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Old 17th February 2016, 06:06 PM
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Hi LYoung,

I too was raised a catholic and you have captured well the emptiness and pointlessness of the doctrine. You base your life on the promise of great things after you die and the threat of eternal punishment for committing mortal sins, rather than living and enjoying the short life we have and following the golden rule with our fellow humans because its the right thing to do rather than because of a vague promise and a set of rules forced on us by a questionable authority.

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Old 18th February 2016, 11:48 AM
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Absolutely!

I think we can look to Homer Simpson on this one:

"I'm a good person, so why do I have to go to church every Sunday and hear about how I'm going to hell?"
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Old 19th February 2016, 09:17 AM
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A belated welcome LYoung. Nice intro. In James Joyce 'The Portait of the Artist as a Young Man,' there are two three page sermons on hell he sat through at the Irish boarding school. They might have toned it down now in the Catholic Church anyway, but you are right: religion is all about death, and also fornication/copulation/reproduction.

Fuck submission. The meek don't inherit the earth. Evolution and the struggle for existence never worked that way. And who really loves their enemies? Atheists are not loved by the religious but are worse than the devil they don't know, applying the old saying.
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Old 23rd May 2017, 09:36 PM
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I am so sorry for coming late to your response. But thank you so much for it. It's people like you that make me feel there is hope that religion will one day die and people can pursue whatever 'spirituality' they choose.

I seek not to 'dictate' to others what I believe to be the 'way of things', only to free them from the bondage of religious doctrine and give them the gift of 'free-thinking'.

..and it IS a gift worthy fighting for!

Best of luck to you mate xxx ooo
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