Gold Coast teen charged for wearing blasphemous T-shirt

[robertkd]

Originally Posted by Caio

The distinction is drawn at hate or menacing speech. Threats and such should always b e treated as serious and is considered a form of assault in my understanding. But this is different to “swearing” or blaspheming. Its freedom of expression, “coarse language” doesn’t make a person evil, its just a word like any other...

Ah the dub dentist, yes enlightening,... http://www.dubdentist.com/history.html

fraud as in, "we're being fucked over by religion"

[SlayerLord]

Originally Posted by rainbowings15

That t shirt had nothing to do with religion. It was straight out shit stirring using women as the intended target. If it were to be about religion why not have a preist jacking off and being called a prick? No, no just use females (in this case a nun) as the joke and focus of riducle. .

It has nothing to do with shit stirring women. My girlfriend has this shirt and a couple of others by the band. its all about shit stirring religion.

[SlayerLord]

Originally Posted by The Irreverent Mr Black

Interesting turn of phrase.

I am not for gods, whether they be Jeebus or any other.

What is the appeal here? The desire to offend for the sake of offending is almost akin to the desire to make others dance to the moral dictates of one's own holy book.

Ok so there not gods. They dont offend for the sake of it. they do the same as this site in a way. let ppl no that there is life after religion. Alot of Metal Heads started of in the binds of religion and rebel in a strong way.
Norwegian Black metal is 1 of the most anti-religious forms of music because they see Christians as invaders.

[Caio]

Another one i like from penn and teller

[robertkd]

Originally Posted by SlayerLord

It has nothing to do with shit stirring women. My girlfriend has this shirt and a couple of others by the band. its all about shit stirring religion.

Yes but how do you explain to to children what the deception is and why 'cunt' is an ok grown up's word and not an ok child s' world.

I have no problem denigrating religion in fact a better depection would be the band members jerking off over a crucifix just as visually in your face and not derogatory to women or stereo types.

[Mentally Saturated]

I think anyone taking the position that if folks find things such as this shirt offensive, they can just look away.. haven't really thought it through.

Using similarly floored logic, if it applies to a t-shirt, then it applies to no clothes as well. I'm guessing there are some folks who'd find the message on the shirt appealing that would be offended at other PPL's naked bodies.. given that U wouldn't really have a choice of only being confronted with the prettiest ones.

Any of those that would feel like slagging off at the not-so-beautiful PPL that were then in their faces would become somewhat hypocritical, eh ? Then again, I'm sure you're already the ones that slag off at those same PPL now, as it is.

You can't seriously suggest that folks close their eyes, or cross to the other side of the street.. when someone wearing such trash approaches.

Be careful where U set precendent. The world ain't at your feet purely to piss all over whenever U feel like it. There's a level of basic, human respect that seems to be diminishing these days. I'm sure I'm not the only one who's not interested in having the religions of the world being replaced by some purely juvenile, anarchaic version of "freedom".

Gary

[SlayerLord]

Does this mean if i polity tell a priest Jesus is a cunt with a soft spoken voice he wont get offended lol

[Sir Patrick Crocodile]

Originally Posted by Caio

The distinction is drawn at hate or menacing speech. Threats and such should always b e treated as serious and is considered a form of assault in my understanding. But this is different to “swearing” or blaspheming. Its freedom of expression, “coarse language” doesn’t make a person evil, its just a word like any other...

This was no threat. It was a statement. If a threat is personally made yes it should be treated as serious. It can be used against you in court if I am not mistaken if anything happens to the threatened individual.

But saying "FUCK JESUS" or "JESUS IS A CUNT" (which is bloody well true) is not a threat. It is a statement.

And yes I agree with Caio on this one. It is simply a word. I made a thread on this forum ages ago on that too.

[Sir Patrick Crocodile]

Originally Posted by SlayerLord

Does this mean if i polity tell a priest Jesus is a cunt with a soft spoken voice he wont get offended lol

Make sure you have a fire extinguisher handy in case you need to blast some carbon dioxide gas in his face.

[atheist_angel]

Originally Posted by Mentally Saturated

I think anyone taking the position that if folks find things such as this shirt offensive, they can just look away.. haven't really thought it through.

If it applies to a t-shirt, then it applies to no clothes as well. I'm guessing there are some folks who'd find the message on the shirt appealing that would be offended at other PPL's naked bodies.. given that U wouldn't really have a choice of only being confronted with the prettiest ones.

Any of those that would feel like slagging off at the not-so-beautiful PPL that were then in their faces would become somewhat hypocritical, eh ? Then again, I'm sure you're already the ones that slag off at those same PPL now, as it is.

You can't seriously suggest that folks close their eyes, or cross to the other side of the street.. when someone wearing such trash approaches.

Be careful where U set precendent. The world ain't at your feet purely to piss all over whenever U feel like it. There's a level of basic, human respect that seems to be diminishing these days. I'm sure I'm not the only one who's not interested in having the religions of the world being replaced by some purely juvenile, anarchaic version of "freedom".

Gary

This is why women aren't allowed to breast feed in public. I am offended that babies are being inconvenienced, because jerks have hang ups about breasts being properly used for the function that they evolved to do in the first place. But a shirtless man... oh that's ok.