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Old 22nd August 2009, 11:54 PM
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I was wondering what you guys would think about this theory that me and someone else who I know well (also an atheist) figured out. Basically he was thinking about the soul and RAM and I am thinking about other things too. I'll talk to him more on this one.

I tend to associate people with different types of computers for some reason. Mainly associating them with particular operating systems and web browsers and CPUs and hard drives and all that.

I'm an engineering student here and I am quite fluent in Geek - so let me know what you think.

Anyway I was comparing myself to a computer. Following a logical set of instructions. Being autistic means I am very much like a computer in the sense that I can only make binary decisions like this:

Code:
if(condition)
{
	doSomething();
}
else
{
	anything();
}
I am sort of thinking that the body can be compared to similar functionality of a computer with electronic components.

System Box

The brain is perhaps a good example of the system box.
It can process things like a CPU does.
It uses neurons to permanently store things like a hard drive (memories and stuff)
It uses neurons to store things until they no longer need to be stored (kind of like volatile memory such as RAM)

BIOS

Explains the logic and understanding I guess. Like for instance theists have an old style BIOS - one with loads of errors. We probably have a more up to date BIOS but depends on how old we are.

Interface Devices

The senses being the interface devices.
The tongue is like a mouse I guess.
Eyes = webcam
Nose = gas leakage detector (well actually now that I think about it it would be handy to have one on my computer)
Ears = microphone.
Touch senses = keyboard.

We speak with our mouth (speaker)
We can draw stuff too and speak with gestures and stuff [something I'm not very good at understanding!] (graphics/monitor)
We can chat to other people (networking)
And all the other things we do (serial + parallel + USB ports)


The "soul" and "mind" being software that is run on a computer.

Memories being stored in non-volatile memory (a hard drive)
Short-term memory being stored in volatile memory (RAM)

I suppose things like i-cache and d-cache and all that aren't much of a concern here - but the different ways people think can represent different architectures.

For instance someone here may think like the Itanium processor. I probably think like an 80286 CPU

Operating System
The operating system could be our setup - like for instance people who are extremely stable and good at multitasking without any problems and easy to communicate with may be compared to using Windows NT (basically this is the OS I use on my machine so I'm kind of used to associating people with this)

People who aren't that stable may be compared to Windows 3.1

"Rare people" can represent OS/2 Warp.

I guess this is the major component I associate people with quite a lot. I also associate people like me with OS/2 Warp too.

Application software
I guess this can be "what people think" - like for instance some people who don't have much better to do than go on the Internet all the time (24/7 type all the time and not "2 hours a day" all the time) would be called a "Web browser"

Lecturers and teachers can be compared to servers. Religious people can be compared to a Trojan horse.

People have bugs in their programs too.

For instance I am very slow in fact I reckon I'm just 50% faster than Microsoft Internet Explorer when it comes to learning things.

And people have programs supplied with them. Sometimes even at startup.

Like theists will have this deadly trojan at startup:

Code:
#include <stdio.h>
#define TRUE 0
#define FALSE 1
int main(void)
{
	while(FALSE)
	{
		printf("THE END IS NIGH\n");
	}
	return TRUE;
}
Note that religion can be what I would call viruses. And trojan horse (it is disguised as a good thing) and affects people with the gullibility vulnerability.

If somehow religion is made illegal that would be like the "antivirus"

Islam seems to be the world's deadliest viruses so far as its growth rate is concerned. Christianity is runner-up to that. Judaism is pretty goddamn close.

Updates and Upgrades
Experience allows patching of "security vulnerabilities" and allows for updates and upgrades.

Evolution
I guess we could be considered a product of evolution of "nature's technology" in a similar way that computers and technology have evolved. Although of course the time span was greater for us compared to that of computers.

Like for instance Homo heidelbergenesis could be the dodgy valve computer. And then came Homo neanderthalis the Amazing Intel 4004 chip. Then came Homo sapiens which was the x86 and RISC and MIPS family - basically the modern style processors we have today.

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Old 22nd August 2009, 11:57 PM
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There are only 10 types of people in the world: those who know binary, and those who don't.
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Old 23rd August 2009, 12:04 AM
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There are only 10 types of people in the world: those who know binary, and those who don't.
That's 1100100% correct.
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That's 1100100% correct.
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Old 23rd August 2009, 12:16 AM
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I know of another autistic type, fairly close to where I now sit, who self-identifies better as mechanism than as human.

But for body-mind metaphors, this is pretty awesome.
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Old 23rd August 2009, 12:19 AM
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I know of another autistic type, fairly close to where I now sit, who self-identifies better as mechanism than as human.
This is exactly how I identify myself too (well I guess that depends on what you define "mechanism" to be - if you define "mechanism" to be something like T-800 or something then that's what I identify myself as) - I don't have the same human emotions as everyone else. I still can't experience love the same way everyone does (eg I get confused when my parents say "We do this because we love you")

I guess it is the way most autistic people are - we have many emotions but not the same emotions normal functional people possess.

I'm still considering what it would feel like to be dead. I find that sort of theory quite interesting but I am not sure what it is like to be non-existent (wait... no wonder religious people tell me I am not God)
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Old 23rd August 2009, 12:22 AM
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This is exactly how I identify myself too (well I guess that depends on what you define "mechanism" to be - if you define "mechanism" to be something like T-800 or something then that's what I identify myself as) - I don't have the same human emotions as everyone else. I still can't experience love the same way everyone does (eg I get confused when my parents say "We do this because we love you")

I guess it is the way most autistic people are - we have many emotions but not the same emotions normal functional people possess.

I'm still considering what it would feel like to be dead. I find that sort of theory quite interesting but I am not sure what it is like to be non-existent (wait... no wonder religious people tell me I am not God)
Come and sit in the corner with the rest of us solipsists, Crocodile.

Some days, I wonder what it would be like to know Doris Day before she was a virgin. Call me weird...
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I am, of course, officially mad.
No you're not. You just put on the funny hat and shoes and pretend. ;-)
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Incidentally, some totally ass-burgers trivia:

the chemical symbol for lead (Pb) is, literally, Latin for "Plumb Bum".

It's a pet name I use with Mrs Lapsed, so, I'm kinda fonda Pb.
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Incidentally, some totally ass-burgers trivia:

the chemical symbol for lead (Pb) is, literally, Latin for "Plumb Bum".

It's a pet name I use with Mrs Lapsed, so, I'm kinda fonda Pb.
So I presume you call her "lead"
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