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Old 21st May 2012, 08:03 PM
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So your suggesting because something can be imagined it is therefore real?

Your kidding right?
I would modify it to "If something can be imagined, it can be found on the Internet"
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Old 21st May 2012, 08:04 PM
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Us Atheists have to admit that God is not invisible like gravity or electricity.

We really have to admit that He does exist in the imagination of both believers and non believers.

Just like any figment like 'Harry Potter' and the 'Cat in the Hat' He exists in whatever form you imagine Him to be.

As soon as we say 'God is invisible' he has form in reality like an intangible wind or invisible friend but if we relegate him to where He really belongs, the imagination, we will have a better understanding when discussing the almighty figment.

The almighty figment is not anyone's friend He is a dictator of the believer's mind.

Nonexistence and invisibility are different superpowers
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Old 21st May 2012, 08:28 PM
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I wonder, exactly who are these bizarre "Us Atheists" that have to admit that God is not invisible like gravity or electricity.

The "Us Atheists" must be mad bro.

Although I don't normally pick on these kinds of things, the OP tends to write "He", "Him", "God", etc all starting with Capitals even though it is Not at the Beginning of a Sentence.

It makes me suspicious.

As for "God is not invisible because he doesn't exist", invisibility has no implication of existence. Things that do not exist cannot be seen, therefore are invisible. Not all invisible entities are nonexistent, but all nonexistent entities are invisible.

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Old 23rd May 2012, 04:34 PM
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Oooh, oooh, a deepity!

By the way, we can all admit the concept of a god exists, but that does not mean a god exists.
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Old 23rd May 2012, 05:43 PM
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I think the point Quintin was trying to make is that god is not some invisible force like Newtonian gravity, but actually an imaginary force like Einsteinian gravity.
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Old 23rd May 2012, 06:07 PM
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OK Quintin, the question is before you. Of whom were you thinking when you wrote your post please?
  • Isaac Newton?
  • Albert Einstein?
  • Angelina Jolie?
  • Vin Diesel?
  • Dolly the sheep?
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Old 24th May 2012, 12:28 AM
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I think the point Quintin was trying to make is that god is not some invisible force like Newtonian gravity, but actually an imaginary force like Einsteinian gravity.
This statement would cause many lols to anyone else who has studied General relativity and understands Riemannian space tensors.

Unfortunately, afaik, that's me only.


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Old 24th May 2012, 10:05 AM
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@ the_gelf - i've come across a few tense Romanians but none from space
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Old 24th May 2012, 03:04 PM
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This statement would cause many lols to anyone else who has studied General relativity and understands Riemannian space tensors.

Unfortunately, afaik, that's me only.


I don't know if you're complementing me for being witty, or rebuking me for not knowing what I'm talking about :P My knowledge of physics comes from highschool, pop-science books and youtube videos
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Old 24th May 2012, 03:30 PM
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I don't know if you're complementing me for being witty, or rebuking me for not knowing what I'm talking about :P My knowledge of physics comes from highschool, pop-science books and youtube videos
Ya, i know ^_^

I will attempt to explain why it is funny, but it will probably appear
highly Sheldon-esque on the funny scale. I will provide some references to phenomena that you can youtube rather than laboriously parrot people smarter than myself.
'newtonian' gravity is a human's meagre interpretation of the localised spacetime effect. It ignores everything outside the earth, then tries of imply that what is observable on the earth is the same everywhere. This simplified version is the Ep=mgh and Ek=1/2mv² where E=Ep+ek. if you take Einstein (and others) redefined the boundaries of what constitutes the "force" of gravity as we observe, and worked out that it is an inherent property of the universe that exists continuously, consistently. it is neither imaginary and certainly not invisible (read: gravitational lensing and 1919 eclipse)
Hence, Newtonian gravity is a meagre and incomplete interpretation.
Einsteinian gravity is measurable, tangible, and used in day to day life.
If you knew these, your statement would read:
the point Quintin was trying to make is that god is not a meagre and incomplete interpretation, but actually measurable, tangible, and used in day to day life.
Which is not what you intended, and a billion ways wrong ^_^
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