Go Back   AFA Forums > Atheism > Global Atheist Convention Forum

Global Atheist Convention Forum All discussions regarding the AFA's Global Atheist Conventions

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #11  
Old 9th May 2012, 05:33 PM
pedrointas pedrointas is offline
AFA Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Burnie, Tasmania
Posts: 13
Default Re: Dealing with the "isn't that just like a religious gathering" comment

I guess we could explain to people that they're confusing the concept of community with the rituals of religion.

Ask them whether they would begrudge someone the enjoyment of attending the MCG to see their team in a grand final (yes I know some regard it as a religion), or whether attending a rock concert amounts to religious observance. Of course not. They are, none the less, gatherings of "communities" of people with similar life interests.

What the GAC represented was simply a gathering of people with a healthy respect for the processes of reason. Nothing more.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 9th May 2012, 07:44 PM
Worldslaziestbusker Worldslaziestbusker is offline
Raptured!
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: By the sea (I do like it)
Posts: 3,653
Default Re: Dealing with the "isn't that just like a religious gathering" comment

Quote:
Fearless said View Post
Great way of putting it WLB. I could have done with your wisdom during the convention as I was fending off cheap blows from so called friends.

One was saying my religion has its faith in science. Not enough words.
Cheap describes the sentiment perfectly, and the smug atheist in the example Slothhead cited elsewhere personified the most annoying of the penny pinched blowhards.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 9th May 2012, 10:26 PM
wearestardust's Avatar
wearestardust wearestardust is offline
What me socialist?
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: not telling
Posts: 8,511
Default Re: Dealing with the "isn't that just like a religious gathering" comment

I've been trying to come up with something worthwhile to respond with, but can't do much better than "fuck that attitude shits me!"

I feel like shaking some of these people by the lapels and asking them whether they pay taxes, or plan to have kids, or why they are cool with bigotry. etc.
__________________
If you need to wonder what would drive somebody to instruct lawyers, you may already be close to trouble.
- the Hircine Reverend
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 9th May 2012, 11:23 PM
the_gelf the_gelf is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Perth, Western Australia
Posts: 1,917
Default Re: Dealing with the "isn't that just like a religious gathering" comment

Quote:
wearestardust said View Post
I've been trying to come up with something worthwhile to respond with, but can't do much better than "fuck that attitude shits me!"

I feel like shaking some of these people by the lapels and asking them whether they pay taxes, or plan to have kids, or why they are cool with bigotry. etc.
I can only think of this Leo face

Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 9th May 2012, 11:34 PM
pedrointas pedrointas is offline
AFA Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Burnie, Tasmania
Posts: 13
Default Re: Dealing with the "isn't that just like a religious gathering" comment

Quote:
the_gelf said View Post
I can only think of this Leo face

Pay that one...
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 10th May 2012, 12:24 AM
Sir Patrick Crocodile Sir Patrick Crocodile is offline
-
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 12,367
Default Re: Dealing with the "isn't that just like a religious gathering" comment

Religious gathering vs. GAC comparison validity checklist:
  1. Gather around (pass)
  2. Listen to speakers (pass)
  3. Enjoy themselves (pass)
  4. Get fear and hate drilled into their minds (FAIL)
  5. Listen to the same stuff over and over again (unverified)
  6. Listen to nothing but gibberish over and over again (FAIL)
  7. Demand to arrive every X days, preferrably sunday (FAIL)
Now, I mentioned something similar in another thread, but I do find it comical how religious people tend to say "atheism is a religion" and compare "atheist behaviours" with religion, as if somehow religion is a bad thing and it is the key to discrediting atheism.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 10th May 2012, 01:03 PM
rayne's Avatar
rayne rayne is offline
The Rickest Rick
Moderator
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 4,915
Default Re: Dealing with the "isn't that just like a religious gathering" comment

Quote:
Worldslaziestbusker said View Post
Among my many beloved friends and family are a small number of people who question my attendance at the GAC, querying the philosophical validity of such an event. "Isn't that just like a religious gathering?" is the common gist of the queries.
In my opinion the GAC is an event where people who have similiar views or interests can attend, listen to some speakers, buy merch, hang out, have a few drinks with mates afterwards. So by the "isn't that just a like a religious gathering" logic, SCI-FI conventions and comic book conventions are "just like religious gatherings". Gay pride festivals are "just like religious gatherings" (people with similar views and sexualities can come together, hang out, drink, listen to some speakers and buy merch).

So why does the GAC get this line of questioning but not a sci-fi convention? Is it because people relate it to a reliigous gathering because the people at the event have a lack of religion? The statement seems like a thinly veiled attempt at proving something (I'm not sure what) about atheism by relating it to the very thing it is the opposite of. "Oh you say you don't believe in religion, yet you're going to something that reseambles a religious gathering. Haha, how illogical".

Now if the GAC was something marketed as a science convention (for example) I bet we wouldn't have people spewing this stupid line of thinking because in the minds of idiots, it wouldn't have anything to do with religion.
__________________
[odd]The immenseness of the universe - and Jesus sitting on the outside worried whether a species, that happens to be alive during a blip on the timeline of existence, is masterbating or not. Priceless.
[Goldenmane]To put it another way: I can be charitable without dogma, and if you preach at me as a condition for accepting your help, then you can fuck off.

Theists! Don't forget to read the Great Big List before posting.
Goldenmane’s Third Rule of Public Discourse
Goldenmane's Exposition On Rule Fucking Three
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 10th May 2012, 02:03 PM
wearestardust's Avatar
wearestardust wearestardust is offline
What me socialist?
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: not telling
Posts: 8,511
Default Re: Dealing with the "isn't that just like a religious gathering" comment

8. Speakers do not disagree with each other (FAIL)
9. The audience must agree with and obey the speakers (FAIL)


(and a huge confession: I think DeCaprio has matured into a decent actor)
__________________
If you need to wonder what would drive somebody to instruct lawyers, you may already be close to trouble.
- the Hircine Reverend
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 10th May 2012, 03:23 PM
the_gelf the_gelf is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Perth, Western Australia
Posts: 1,917
Default Re: Dealing with the "isn't that just like a religious gathering" comment

Quote:
wearestardust said View Post
8. Speakers do not disagree with each other (FAIL)
9. The audience must agree with and obey the speakers (FAIL)


(and a huge confession: I think DeCaprio has matured into a decent actor)
He was always pretty decent, just better and less fangirl icon
Reply With Quote
Old 17th December 2012, 09:06 PM
durgaprasadzone
This message has been deleted by wolty. Reason: Spam
  #20  
Old 20th June 2013, 04:46 AM
Peter Burnett Peter Burnett is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 257
Default Re: Dealing with the "isn't that just like a religious gathering" comment

There's some good reasons here for why an Atheist Convention is nothing like a religious gathering. Is it not just as boring and expensive though?
I can listen to some guy/gal talk about stuff for an hour at most.
Can you learn something there that you can't find anywhere else?
What else can you do there? I suppose you get to meet people who are similar to you, eat food and buy t-shirts and stuff.
Personally, I'd be worried about terrorists. Imagine the damage that could be done to such a small minority. Would we make martyrs of the victims? Probably.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 04:02 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.