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Old 17th April 2012, 11:17 AM
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What bothered me was the guy sitting in front of us who clapped waaaay too enthusiastically at the lack of respect for women joke. The danger of those types of jokes is that some nutters apparently take them seriously.


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This!!!!!

The people that get the joke don't need it. The people that should get it, don't. And this is where the problem of enabling comes in.



But what would I know? I am apparently sexist.
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Old 17th April 2012, 11:26 AM
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What bothered me was the guy sitting in front of us who clapped waaaay too enthusiastically at the lack of respect for women joke. The danger of those types of jokes is that some nutters apparently take them seriously.


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Haha, I forgot about them, the powerband bracelet crew.
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Old 17th April 2012, 11:32 AM
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What bothered me was the guy sitting in front of us who clapped waaaay too enthusiastically at the lack of respect for women joke. The danger of those types of jokes is that some nutters apparently take them seriously.


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That might have been me. I forgot, we are not allowed to laugh at satire.

Do you think he might be having a dig at religion perhaps???
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Old 17th April 2012, 11:37 AM
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That might have been me. I forgot, we are not allowed to laugh at satire.

Do you think he might be having a dig at religion perhaps???
You had to be there... This guy clearly did not have women at the top of his like list!


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Old 17th April 2012, 11:55 AM
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I might as well chuck in my 2c worth:

Yup, the content of that joke was horrible. Funny? Well, that is for the person listening to decide. Does the teller agree with the content? Dunno, will have to ask him. The only thing we can really discuss here is 'What is appropriate?. I personally, don't see any actual humour in that kind of humour. As Owheelj said, the 'value' is in the shock it creates. So, by that logic, it is not appropriate to me for a comedy night as I don't find it funny. However, I am loathe to say whether it is appropriate for one and all. As rightly pointed out by Logic, there are a lot of nutters that will use a joke like that to validate their actions and beliefs. However, saying that something is inappropriate on the basis of the possible actions of some nutjobs (and there are plenty) does not sit well with me regardless of how vile I find the joke. As I already said, I think that the best way of dealing with this at a comedy night is to unite in silence.
I guess in a way, I am relating this kind of thing to law making. Is it right to make a decision and apply it to all to prevent the actions of the nutjob few?
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Old 17th April 2012, 12:57 PM
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You had to be there... This guy clearly did not have women at the top of his like list!


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I was there. He is a comedian, he is taking the piss.
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Old 17th April 2012, 01:00 PM
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I was there. He is a comedian, he is taking the piss.
I'm not talking about the comedian Andy. I'm talking about the guy who clapped overly enthusiastically.


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Old 17th April 2012, 04:56 PM
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I'm not talking about the comedian Andy. I'm talking about the guy who clapped overly enthusiastically.
Well it was pretty funny, unless you took it a little to seriously.
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Old 17th April 2012, 05:16 PM
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Well it was pretty funny, unless you took it a little to seriously.
Yes, I'm pretty sure this was Logic's point. The guy sitting on front of us WAS taking it a little to seriously, as evidenced by his overly enthusiastic clapping, not laughing, every time a misogynistic comment was made. Having been there I can vouch that if this audience member was just playing along as part of the joke, he was doing a very convincing job of showing otherwise.
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Old 17th April 2012, 05:34 PM
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I think that's a common problem with that kind of comedy. I often notice that racists watch shows that parody racists, like South Park and Family Guy, and then repeat the things being said without realising that the jokes were about people like them, not particular races. Although obviously that's just a case of people who are already bigoted having their views confirmed, so I don't think harm is done.

I just quickly also wanted to mention that for the Freethought Student Alliance we sent out "orientation packs" for O-Weeks at universities that included "placebo bracelets" which look just like power bracelets, including the hologram, but are not. I didn't notice anybody wearing them, or power bracelets, but I wonder whether the "power bracelet" crew were wearing our (or somebody else's) placebo bracelet?
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