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Please present a compelling explanation why naturalism is true
how can we explain our existence through naturalism ? how can natural events account for - the existence of the universe - its fine-tuning - the existence of life - the existence of consciousness, intelligence, hability of speech - morality |
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Hi, Jireh.
This is a message sent to all who find their way to these forums. We like people, and we like facts too! We're friendly but we're skeptical, and if somebody calls for proof, it's not an accusation. Only the strong ideas thrive here: we try to respect people. (We do not tolerate personal abuse.) You may already have visited these other handy places: * New Member Information * Welcome from AFA president * For those interested in learning, I recommend the Atheism Resource Thread maintained by Fearless. * And a quick look at our reserved spot for belief-based discussion, Fantasy Island, includes The Great Big List, a sort-of "things we've seen before" for those of faith, and general rules of argument for the forum. If you've got questions, please ask. Moderators have red name tags, but many of our friendly people may have the answers you need. Enjoy the forums. We hope to see plenty from you in discussions. Have fun.
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Welcome to the forum.
Why does it need to explain itself? I would like to counter with, how can something that doesn't exist explain the existence of things?
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Got sick of RatSkep trashing all your unevidenced assertions eh Jireh?
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Why? If you understood your questions you wouldn't need to ask.
Oh and thanks for the welcome message/introduction. It's always nice and friendly when new people introduce themselves to a new community. Oh wait, you didn't. Scratch that.
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. . . “Sir,' I said to the universe, 'I exist.' 'That,' said the universe, 'creates no sense of obligation in me whatsoever.” ― Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy The Nizkor Project- Logical Fallacies Atheist: n; A person to be pitied in that he is unable to believe things for which there is no evidence, and who has thus deprived himself of a convenient means of feeling superior to others. —Chaz Bufe, The American Heretic’s Dictionary
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Please provide us with a detailed explanation of how your god created morality, or life, or the universe, step by step. Thanks. <-- This.
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There are no good arguments for gods. Last edited by Xeno; 22nd February 2012 at 02:22 PM. |
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- the existence of the universe (astrologist)
- its fine-tuning (what fine tuning, that we are spinning really rfast?) - the existence of life (ask a biologist or a chemist who studies abiogensis) - the existence of consciousness, intelligence, hability of speech (evolutionary biologist) - morality (neuroscientist) Or instead of trying to score some points or thinking you can go "See those ebil athiests dont know anything" by posting a unclear question, you could go use that wonderful search engine called Google
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blah blah blah blah Ive seen and experienced spirits, they go well with coke Last edited by gruber; 22nd February 2012 at 02:27 PM. |
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Jireh's answer to my question about exactly how his god created anything will probably resemble closely this answer he gave to a corresponding question on RatSkep. I read it a few minutes ago, after posting above.
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Hi thanks for joining the forum!
Now I just need a nice cup of tea and a comfy place to sit. Way over here Cheers
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What is "naturalism" all about?
Not sure what "naturalism" is. Sorry. Quote:
Who is fine-tuning the universe? Well those mushrooms didn't exactly poof themselves into existence did they? Quote:
Are you a theist by any chance? If so I have another question waiting. EDIT: It appears you are a christian apparently. If your god asked you to kill somebody then would you do it? YES or NO Last edited by Sir Patrick Crocodile; 22nd February 2012 at 02:36 PM. |
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