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Old 17th February 2012, 03:33 PM
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Im going to humor you to make a point that I hope you will think about.

Notwithstanding all the discussion already had, how about the equity implications of what you're proposing?

What state of consciousness would your god retain? The one at birth, at death, perhaps the drunk one? How about the one where you are suffering a massive brain hemorrhage but still conscious? What of those born with disorders? Genetic defects?

When assuming your role in the divine body, which body are you taking (see above).

I'm guessing you like to think your god would choose the best bits? So you leave all the crap behind eh? The crap all adds to our consciousness, self image etc (psychology 101)

I think it's fair to say none can contribute anything to a divine body, so your body & self image will be put on the scrap heap. Thus, even in your fantasy, nothing of your consciousness would remain.

Just exactly what is it you're hoping for? A boring identical copy of yourself that will live on forever? There is a recipe for insanity if ever I have seen one.
no the Creator will give them the same consciousness they had on earth, the same body buy in a divine version etc

similiar with the people with disorders but they wont have them anymore
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Old 17th February 2012, 03:45 PM
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no the Creator will give them the same consciousness they had on earth, the same body buy in a divine version etc

similiar with the people with disorders but they wont have them anymore
It seems you are not willing to seriously contemplate the thoughtful contributions made in this thread.

Try again, thinking this time...
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Old 17th February 2012, 03:47 PM
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Mental masturbation like this eventually has a result. A gooey mess everywhere.
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Old 17th February 2012, 03:53 PM
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What does "divine" mean?
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Old 17th February 2012, 04:02 PM
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could the Creator recreate my consciousness after I die, so that the me that is typing this right now can still be able to exist?

No.
I've answered this in paragraph form before now, so "no" is all you get this time around.
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Old 17th February 2012, 04:10 PM
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no the Creator will give them the same consciousness they had on earth, the same body buy in a divine version etc

similiar with the people with disorders but they wont have them anymore
No, that shocking final peril which gibbers unmentionably outside the ordered universe, where no dreams reach; that amorphous blight of nethermost confusion which blasphemes and bubbles at the center of all infinity - the boundless daemon sultan Azathoth, whose name no lips dare speak aloud, and who gnaws hungrily in inconceivable, unlighted chambers beyond time and space amidst the muffled, maddening beating of vile drums and the thin monotonous whine of accursed flutes; to which detestable pounding and piping dance slowly, awkwardly, and absurdly the gigantic ultimate gods, the blind, voiceless, tenebrous, and mindless Other Gods whose soul and messenger is the crawling chaos Nyarlathotep.

The blind idiot god, Lord of All Things, encircled by his flopping horde of mindless and amorphous dancers, and lulled by the thin monotonous piping of a demonic flute held in nameless paws, swallows suns, and shits galaxies. There is no mention of the afterlife, his servant on earth, Nyarlathotep brings only madness.

Then of course I may be just speaking shit about stuff I couldn't possibly know, because it sounds good and I read it in a book.
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Old 17th February 2012, 04:24 PM
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THIS IS WHAT A METRIC FUCKLOAD OF UNANSWERED QUESTIONS LOOKS LIKE






















Have you got enough brain to even answer a few, New Dude, or are you going to plop your stupid creator down and start wibbling about it again?
1. I cant show pictures of any of those, all i can say is what if

2.creator as i said is a powerful maybe not omnipotent being who created whatever made the big bang

heavean is in my definition a general place where people go when they die it might or might not be another dimension

divine is a type of spirituaal material. i cant describe.

3.the person experiencing the dreams are my mind
i dont have these abilities when i wake up

4. i dont know who created the creator

5. i hope

6. again i dont have evidence. what i am asking is a "what if" question and what i want to know is that although we do not have any evidence ..
COULD this happen?

7.i dont know what that means

8.i answered that in question 2

9. what creator? what after life? i explained in 2.

10. i answered you

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Old 17th February 2012, 04:26 PM
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No.
I've answered this in paragraph form before now, so "no" is all you get this time around.
why not?

why cant a creator who has the ability to re create my exact consciousness after i die

not be able to do it?

please answer this
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Old 17th February 2012, 04:27 PM
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It seems you are not willing to seriously contemplate the thoughtful contributions made in this thread.

Try again, thinking this time...
what do you mean?
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Old 17th February 2012, 04:45 PM
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TND, if you are willing to believe in Superman, Kraptonite and The Vegetable Lamb Of Tartary, then they are true (to you).

Because that's what your "IF" does.

Like I said, IF your Auntie had large, hairy balls, she would be your Uncle.

You do realise that your big "IF" makes none of this stuff you're talking about even remotely likely to be true, don't you?
im not asking if this is true.

i am asking if this is POSSIBLE the slightest
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