Saved by Grace

[davo]

Originally Posted by The Irreverent Mr Black

@Davo: Didn't we have the prophecy problem with some missionary who wouldn't accept that a goodly part of Iraq was rebuilt despite the prophecy saying nobody would ever live there again?

Yep, indeed and the funny thing was it was the missionary that brought it up! lol

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyre,_Lebanon

kinda stuffed that up didn't he?

ATM I am pondering such deep philosophical questions of prophesy in The Lord of the Rings. When Frodo asks Goldberry just who Tom Bombadil is, she responds with "He is" ... however it appears Tolkein himself denies this enlightenment. It requires deeper inspection, otherwise I am left only with Eru Iluvatar as per the Ainulindale, in which music is made into substance.

I am pretty sure we haven't heard the end of Tom, any day now .... any day ...

[Iseeyouthere]

I'll give Cotto a chance to *cough*"save"*cough* me.

If he can provide the needed information and evidence, as well as answering the questions the others have asked AND prove them wrong, I will personally renounce all I know and become a member of the shee... I mean church.

But we free-thinkers already know what the outcome is going to be... But let him try. He is bound to come up w.

[AUSloth]

Originally Posted by The Irreverent Mr Black

(Sings)

"Each time I strain my brains,
<snip>
Aaaaaaaaaaand for yoooooooooouuuuuu!"

@ Mr Black was just sifting this thread again, have you got any Blenny and the Jets?

[AUSloth]

Originally Posted by Mr B

I'll see what can be done. Inspiration such as that normally requires Strong Cheese before bedtime.

Heh, may the (f)lawd cheesus be with you in your endeavor, I tend to rely on the (un)holy spirits myself

[Cosmic Teapot]

Originally Posted by cotto

I am a follower of Jesus and love talking to others about their beliefs... Cant wait to have some chats.

Nothing in any of your posts indicates this is true. In fact, it’s evident that you’re lying and have no real interest in two-way communications at all.

Originally Posted by cotto

If you are not going to bother with this then don't bother replying. I'll simply wipe the dust off my feet and move on my friend.

It seems you require people to automatically accept whatever you say at face value or you will stop participating (which is not really a great loss from our point of view). It also seems that you fail to understand what an “open mind” is.

Originally Posted by cotto

I'm genuinely hear to share to those who actually have an open mind, and are willing to consider a possibilty, and put their arrogance aside, what happened in my life for me to turn from an angry man without a clue, into a follower of Jesus Christ.

Watch this video and get an education about “open-mindedness”.



Incidentally, it’s actually you who is close-minded…

Originally Posted by cotto

Mate, I believe what I believe.

Originally Posted by cotto

I beleive 100% Jesus Christ is lord and saviour

Despite having your piffle refuted repeatedly, you don’t acknowledge anything that’s been said or show a willingness to consider alternative views or new information. What would have to happen for you to stop believing in Jesus? What information or proof would be sufficient to destroy your faith and de-convert you? Would anything be enough? No?

In effect, you’re a closed-minded preacher looking for gullible sheep. Since we have none here, why are you here at all? What did you hope to achieve on an atheist forum? Are you really that fucking naïve that you thought you’d come in and tell us all that Jesus loves us and we’d all just convert? Your wanton ignorance makes me want to vomit on your forehead. You come in here under false pretences, without knowing anything accurate about atheism and demonstrate that you know nothing about your own religion and who actually wrote the bible.

Pascals Wager? Really? That load of bollocks has been soundly refuted all over the internet but somehow you still believe it’s a winning argument. In case you missed it, here’s a video showing how woeful your logic is.

Originally Posted by cotto

If you don't consider someone else's experience, ask yourself, " is it because I'm too prideful and afraid of being wrong?"

No, it’s because anecdotal evidence is only useful in convincing the person concerned; it’s not convincing to anyone else. Your story may carry weight with your fellow god-botherers but you have absolutely no credibility here. Do you have any physical evidence to verify your conversion story? I didn’t think so.

Originally Posted by cotto

I bet the guy who bet me the 6 pack hasn't read anything about how Darwins evolution theories have been proven wrong time and time again.

I’ll bet you an entire fucking brewery that you’ve never read about the many mistakes, fabrications and inconsistencies in the bible.
But just for fun, how about you tell us about these “proofs” that evolution is wrong. And if you even think of typing the words “irreducible complexity”, just smash your keyboard and save yourself the inevitable ridicule it will provoke.

Originally Posted by cotto

You obviously have absolutely no concern of anything other than your own opinion…

Holy shit! You must have the kettle on speed dial so you can call it black at a moment’s notice. LOL

Originally Posted by cotto

I suggest for your sake you pick up a bible, have a read of the gospel, and look at some evidence against your beliefs ( or non-beliefs, which is bogus might I add because that is a belief within itself) the same place you have built your argument(online) before you get back to me.

a) As previously stated, many of our members are ex-christians and some have even trained for the priesthood. You telling them to read a bible is absurd and idiotic. In any case, reading the bible is not required to be an atheist. You are not a muslim but I’m betting you’ve never even touched a Koran let alone read it.

b) Evidence? What evidence do you refer to?

c) Atheism is a belief system in the same way that alopecia totalis is a hair style. If you insist on ignoring our definition of atheism, you just show that you have an agenda other than discussing our position. As mentioned, preach-only devices get ejected.

Originally Posted by cotto

1: The 50/50 thing is for the simple mind to try and understand things about God

What worked on you is unlikely to work on us. Try harder.

Originally Posted by cotto

2: The gospels were written by Jesus's companions and disciples. Eye wittnesses. like me writing about you, if i was watching you do something.

Awesome fail.

Originally Posted by cotto

3: whos that guy? the one who says hell isnt real? that it was made up by the church. hes not saved! He hasnt read his bible. niether have you guys because it talks about how people are going to make things up(false prophets) and lead people away from Christ.

I think he’s a Scotsman but not the true kind.

Originally Posted by cotto

4: Jesus came to warn us of what is to come. Hell was made for satan and his angels when the rebelled against Christ. if you reject Christ, you choose hell.

If I walked up to you and said “give me your wallet or I’ll shoot you” but didn’t seem to have a gun and you refused, would god see it as suicide and send you to hell if I then produced a gun and killed you? Did you choose to be shot and killed by not believing I had a gun?

Originally Posted by cotto

You pointed out a good prophetic piece of scripture.

Originally Posted by cotto

Just one example of cannabalism in today's world. God speaks about how those who go against him fall into such a broken world. It's quite evident in today's society.

Cannibalism is “quite evident” in today’s society? That’s news to me. Do you have any data showing that cannibalism today occurs more than it did in history? The majority of the world’s population is of no or another religion, so surely human flesh should be as common a menu item as a beef schnitzel. Your standard of what is “prophetic” is very low indeed and is largely skewed by your own confirmation bias.

I vote +1 for a banning. This guy is obviously here to preach, not engage in discussion. How many questions has he ignored so far?

[Centauri]

Yep. Just a preacher with a narrow mind and no evidence.

[Sir Patrick Crocodile]

Grace? I got saved by Grace. Knowwhaddamean? knowwhaddamean? saynomore? nudgenudge?

[Cosmic Teapot]

Originally Posted by The Irreverent Mr Black

You know, Mr Pot, I don't think it will be necessary to ban Cotto. He's been refuted so thoroughly.

We all know this but I don't think cotto does. I'm fairly confident that he'll trot out Pascal's Wager at the soonest opportunity even though it's been comprehensively gangbanged right in front of him. How long do we play host to such bloody-minded ignorance?
He's only engaging with Goldenmane because he's all buttsore and his pride won't let him drop it. After reading GM's posts, I feel a little buttsore and they weren't even directed at me.

Sent from my toaster running Cyanogen mod. This post is hot, buttery and blue.

[Xeno]

Originally Posted by Cosmic Teapot

I'm fairly confident that he'll trot out Pascal's Wager at the soonest opportunity...

Cotto did that in #59.

[Fearless]

Originally Posted by Xeno

Cotto did that in #59.

Ahh #1959 was a bloody good year