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[djarm67]

1. Atheism and Christianity are both ' world views' lets not just assume that Atheism is a position of skepticism on the God question (agnosticism), it is a negative stance on the existence of God, it is a world view that WILL change how you live your life. Therefore It must demonstrate how it better fits the evidence than Christian theism does and if it fails in this respect, Christian theism stands. Please shut up and stop claiming that it does not need to provide reasons for its assertions
unitethechurch 2 days ago

@unitethechurch Atheism is a retronymic philosophical classification.

Theism is belief in a God or gods (there are many subsets of this category). If you do not have a belief in a God or gods you are an implicit (or weak) atheist. A subset of implicit atheists are explicit (or strong) atheists. Explicit atheists, whilst not holding a belief in a God or gods extend this to state that a God or gods do not exist. All other beliefs regarding supernaturalism are irrelevent to these categories.
djarm67 2 days ago

@djarm67 I disagree with that system of classification. The clarification needs to be made that these are competing world views. It is not a case of, do unicorns exist, or does the tooth theory exist, but rather a question of the nature of reality. I would suggest that this position is one that Atheists have created so that there is no need to investigate whether their hypothesis is better at explaining the evidence.
unitethechurch 2 days ago

@unitethechurch Your disagreement with the classification is irrelevant. You can't simply change the meaning of a philosophical category because you find it difficult to argue against.
djarm67 2 days ago

@djarm67 I see no reason to call it weak Atheism as if this stance were any different to the position of strong Atheism. The position of not having a belief in God or God's is exactly the same as having the belief that no God or God's exist. Since not having a belief in God or God's inherently presumes that no God or God's exist. They are the same position phrased differently.
unitethechurch 2 days ago

@unitethechurch You argument from ignorance regarding the different philosophical categories of implicit (weak) or explicit (strong) atheism is irrelevant.
djarm67 2 days ago

@djarm67 and If an Atheist wants to challenge me on their being insufficient evidence I will tell him that faith (ascent to belief) is needed in almost all situations since there is no certainty outside of knowing that you exist as a thinking being. Outside of that there is only evidence. Whatever world view best fits the evidence should therefore be accepted since there is no such thing as sufficient evidence for a belief, only the best available hypotheses. There is no such thing as proof.
unitethechurch 2 days ago

@unitethechurch Please provide repeatable, verifiable evidence for the existence of ANY supernatural phenomena. Subit it to the James Randi Foundation and then pick up your cheque for $2M. I wonder why none of these church leaders have been able to do this so far?
djarm67 2 days ago

@djarm67

LOL DO YOU ACTUALLY THINK GOD IS GOING TO BE A GOOD LITTLE LAB RAT, HOW ARROGANT OF YOU. Everyone knows this cheque idea is a farce, God is not a cosmic genie that will heal every single person who prays.

I do not base my faith on miracles (although I have seen many, and have personally laid hands on the person who was healed). I believe what I do because it is the best explanation available for my experience, and evidence from science, history and philosophy.
unitethechurch 1 day ago

@unitethechurch So you don't have enough faith to submit your "healing hands" to the James Randi Foundation? Join the list of other snake oil salesmen.
djarm67 1 day ago

@djarm67 why would supernatural healing be empiracally testable?? By its very definition it is healing outside of the natural realm. The James Randi foundation is a crock of shit, no Christian believes in a God that heals on command like a genie, the Christian God is not a God who will be domesticated by arrogant humans who forget their place. When I pray for someone I have no idea if they will get healed or not, but there is a chance that they will, and sometimes they do. Grow up
unitethechurch 1 day ago

@unitethechurch So I take it you just ignore Luke 17:6 "So the Lord said, "If you have faith as a mustard seed, you can say to this mulberry tree, 'Be pulled up by the roots and be planted in the sea,' and it would obey you."
djarm67 1 day ago

@djarm67 No I do not 'ignore' this passage. I just read it in its context 1. In the passage Jesus is talking to the disciples in particular 2. The point of the passage is not to make some incredible promise that God is now our vending machine and whatever we say will now be done, but rather a use of hyperbole to show the disciples that if they have enough faith they can do anything, things they never considered they could do. Theres this thing called exegesis, maybe you should look into it.
unitethechurch 20 hours ago

@unitethechurch Translation: "We just ignore what this passage says and pretend it says something else so that we don't have to face the reality that our particular collection of mythological books are wrong."
djarm67 13 hours ago

This exchange is from over here

[Fearless]

How many brick walls do you have around you?

Their ignorance is such that they will compartmentalise anything they do not understand with a standard response to explain it.

Then pile on contempt and unload all the excuses for their empty vessel of a god.

[Logic please]

Head. Desk.

IMO, a rich theistic conga-line of logical fallacies, PRATTs, special pleading and, when all else fails, attack the person instead of the argument... have I missed anything?

Kudos for your efforts, djarm.

[Sieveboy]

Hilarious DJ. You certainly do get some curious examples of humanity. I don't think it liked your James Randi test.

[crocoduck]

DJ, you are so calm, and the responses come back all emotional.

"Please shut up and stop..."

"How arrogant of you..."

"Everybody knows..."

"The Christian God (IS this) ...(IS NOT that)"

"Grow up"

"There's this thing.. maybe you should look into it <sarcasm>"

As well as content, the exchange is interesting from a psychological point of view!

[gruber]

*grabs popcorn* MORESSSS

[wolty]

Awesome DJ. I don't know how you stay calm though.

[Sir Patrick Crocodile]

djarm69: After all that I would think your brain is cushioned by a reservoir of fluid and/or you are an elite wall boxer.

wolty: If you think that was bad try talking to members of a muslim family about similar subjects for a continuous interval of 15+ seconds.

[djarm67]

Cont

@djarm67 "We Atheist's, take a verse out of context, claim that all Christians must believe our uninspired foolish interpretation, then attempt to demonstrate that the bible is wrong by claiming that the Christian's are blind for not believing and acting upon our foolish interpretation, since what we insinuate the bible says is clearly false". I'm over talking to you, the kingdom of God has come near to you. Bye.
unitethechurch 4 hours ago

@unitethechurch Oh well. Run away. We hadn't even got to the scriptures condoning rape and slavery. Let alone whether birds are bats, whales are fish, how many legs do grasshoppers have, do rabbits chew the cud or the calculation of Pi. Still, wise decision to run away now before you are confronted with those scriptures.
djarm67 4 hours ago

If you have a YouTube account, feel free to join in. I doubt he will stay "gorne" away after my last comment.
http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=isslBW_sb9M

[gruber]

Ooooo i got some my first comment about some idiot saying homosexual populations dont exist in nature

over 400 spieces have known homosexual populations, of course it is unnatural since its occuring in nature

the reply

Animals also slaughter their own kind for food and mates, but that doesn't mean it's natural for people to do so

me

yes your absolutely right, not once in the entire history of humans, has one human killed another for food or a mate

them

Now there's no reason to trade your wisdom for foolishness. Mankind isn't supposed to behave like animals; we're given hearts and minds that can reason and empathize. Every human has a sense of morality, and it is only if one ignore this morality then could one become like an animal and slaughter his own fellow human for an animalistic reward (food or a mate).
Just because an animal does it, does not mean people should do it.

me

Well if your heart is doing your thinking the you have one hell of a problem. Me i was giving a brain that my ancestors evolved over millions of years, that was used to think hey maybe killing each other isnt such a beneficial idea, and over a hundred thousand years that brain was used to think working together brought more rewards and society was brouight together but then for some reason people started using a 1700 yr old book that has been edited beyond recognition

and then started judging, murdering and taking away their rights based on that book, well it kinda makes your whole point about humans not being animals (for some mythical reason) pretty none relevent. Which reminds me, what does murder have to do with homosexualtity, unless of course your religious and want to kill them