Caliope on "spirituality" and "the soul"

[Roger]

[Bolero]

Roger, that is be-yoo-di-ful!

[Sir Patrick Crocodile]

Originally Posted by Caliope

Jesus sacrificed Himself to pay for all the sins of humanity.

He says to each soul that he would undergo again, all that suffering just for them alone.

Peoples hearts are cruel, mocking Jesus as He looks at them with love, and takes their place.
He loves those that even mock and curse Him, whilst He carries their punishment.

Those who make use of this gift will seek to love and comfort Christ.

But those unloving and ungrateful will mock His sacrifice, and His death will be in vain for them.

With such perfect mercy comes perfect justice.

At Judgement each soul is examined for it's love of God or lack of it.

Did you show one shred of love or compassion for Christ who sacrificed himself for love of you.
Did you live your life selfishly not acknowledging Gods gifts to you.

Material things mean nothing at judgement.

Why The Fuck would I show love and compassion to some pathetic whining abusive tyrant who can't fix his own problems up? No thanks. I'll start worshipping him when he shows himself and fixes the mess that he created from the start.

I think Jesus is cruel for making cruel people and not doing shit to stop them.

Now if your god asked you to kill somebody then would you do it? <YES|NO>

[Caliope]

Originally Posted by Bolero

Caliope, what do you consider the "spiritual faculty of the soul" to entail? Can you give us particular instances of this "faculty" being engaged? Can you provide links to sources which can verify your assertions?

Otherwise, I'm terribly sorry to say, it sounds like more made up bollocks.

I can only tell you what I experienced.

For instance I was shown what hell is, it was a black hole, it only had malice, fear anguish, torment and pain.
I saw it when praying for a murder suicide situation. A man killed his wife and family and killed himself. The terrible darkness he had in him he took with him.
It is fearful state to see, and I can't really describe it.

Then there's the intense evil I see in some people on the bus. All outward signs they look normal but I see their souls are disgusting, and can not sit next to them. If they died, their is no way they could stand in Gods light.

Then there is the souls of those obsessed with gambling, pornography and sex, they appear like animals of different kinds.

Then there are the oppressed souls, abuse and evil inflicted on them. They appear with wounds and are crippled.

But when these are too much, if you sit next to a down syndrome person or children, they have beautiful souls, these are a joy to see, there is nothing ugly in them, only good.
These simple souls are refreshing joy to be around, without them this world would be an uglier place.

[Goldenmane]

Originally Posted by Caliope

I can only tell you what I experienced.

For instance I was shown what hell is, it was a black hole, it only had malice, fear anguish, torment and pain.
I saw it when praying for a murder suicide situation. A man killed his wife and family and killed himself. The terrible darkness he had in him he took with him.
It is fearful state to see, and I can't really describe it.

Then there's the intense evil I see in some people on the bus. All outward signs they look normal but I see their souls are disgusting, and can not sit next to them. If they died, their is no way they could stand in Gods light.

Then there is the souls of those obsessed with gambling, pornography and sex, they appear like animals of different kinds.

Then there are the oppressed souls, abuse and evil inflicted on them. They appear with wounds and are crippled.

But when these are too much, if you sit next to a down syndrome person or children, they have beautiful souls, these are a joy to see, there is nothing ugly in them, only good.
These simple souls are refreshing joy to be around, without them this world would be an uglier place.

You see evil souls in people on the bus?

Dude, sounds like some fucked up hallucinations right there.

[Aldaron]

If your religious beliefs are what's stopping you committing a murder/suicide, perhaps on those people with evil souls on the bus, then I say "don't ever lose that faith!"

Get yourself out of here right away, see a doctor and keep revelling in God's grace...

[Bolero]

Originally Posted by Caliope

I can only tell you what I experienced.

For instance I was shown what hell is, it was a black hole, it only had malice, fear anguish, torment and pain.
I saw it when praying for a murder suicide situation. A man killed his wife and family and killed himself. The terrible darkness he had in him he took with him.
It is fearful state to see, and I can't really describe it.

Then there's the intense evil I see in some people on the bus. All outward signs they look normal but I see their souls are disgusting, and can not sit next to them. If they died, their is no way they could stand in Gods light.

Then there is the souls of those obsessed with gambling, pornography and sex, they appear like animals of different kinds.

Then there are the oppressed souls, abuse and evil inflicted on them. They appear with wounds and are crippled.

But when these are too much, if you sit next to a down syndrome person or children, they have beautiful souls, these are a joy to see, there is nothing ugly in them, only good.
These simple souls are refreshing joy to be around, without them this world would be an uglier place.

So... once again, you're asserting something from personal experience, unsupported by anything objective or verifiable in any way. And, once again, you assert that we should accept without question that this is so, simply because you say it is.

Don't you think that your average suicide bomber would have much the same thing to say about god talking in his head telling him to do the "right" thing and blow up himself and a bunch of innocents? Should we take his word for it? What's that difference between what he says is happening in his head and what you say is happening in yours? No verifiable evidence for either.

Goldenmane has a point - it sounds like you may need a little help from a medical professional for your hallucinations.

[Sir Patrick Crocodile]

What Black said:

Originally Posted by The Irreverent Mr Black

Seriously, Cal, get treatment if you think you are seeing these things.

You may have a mental illness.

Now, would you do Crocodile and others the honour of answering their questions, before somebody has to give you a time-out?

Come on Caliope... it isn't that difficult.

If your god asked you to kill somebody then would you do it? <YES|NO>

(BTW it would be good if people didn't post new quesitons/material in order to avoid distracting him; there are existing questions in this thread that remain unanswered too)

[Fearless]

Hope you have changed your sock this morning.

[wearestardust]

Originally Posted by two dogs

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