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25th January 2017, 01:43 PM
 stevebrooks AFA Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 5,134
Professor applies for a job, gets asked what a PhD is!

I don't know if anyone else has seen this;

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 AN OUT-OF-WORK scientist has slammed a “moronic” education bureaucracy after he was knocked back from a job at TAFE because he didn’t have a “high-school level” teaching certificate.
So he applies for a job and gets told he needs a Cert IV in Training and Assessment, despite having 30 years experience teaching in Australia, China and Singapore. The certificate costs $2500 and takes six months to complete; Quote:  Nevertheless, he said he “quickly raced off to the nearest online provider, paid them$500 and started looking at the course”. “I gave them all of my credentials, asking them for some exemptions and prior recognition of learning, and that’s when I discovered how bad it was,” he said. “When they looked at my qualifications, the first thing they said to me was, ‘What’s a PhD?’ I’m not beating up on the lady, she was very lovely, but I explained to her what my qualification meant, and she said, ‘But that’s not a teaching qualification.’ “I said, ‘But it is for every university in the world.’”
http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/...15e98693e636a9
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#2
25th January 2017, 03:50 PM
 Darwinsbulldog AFA Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Perth Posts: 19,018
Re: Professor applies for a job, gets asked what a PhD is!

yeh, dey iz dumb, effrebodie knowz it stands for post hole digger.
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25th January 2017, 04:09 PM
 pipbarber AFA Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Melbourne Posts: 3,129
Re: Professor applies for a job, gets asked what a PhD is!

That cert IV qualification is a government scam. It's an utterly meaningless qualification that is required only by government funded tafe institutions (although that seems to be expanding). It can be completed in 3 weeks and can cost as little as $70 (various online schools have random offers at these types of prices), or you can pay$2-3k and take half a year. You get the same bit of paper either way which pretty demonstrates it worth. Anyone, with prior teaching experience will learn...nothing, zilch, naught. This is the blatant and cynical commodification of education.
#4
25th January 2017, 06:37 PM
 knowledge is power Proceed at own risk Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Central coast, NSW Posts: 1,926
Re: Professor applies for a job, gets asked what a PhD is!

TAFE don't expect applications from university teachers, They are overqualified! When I last studied in 2016 in TAFE there were talks of teachers being replaced by 'trainers'. It's cheaper apparently. Quality of education will go down if this happens.
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25th January 2017, 06:48 PM
 pipbarber AFA Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Melbourne Posts: 3,129
Re: Professor applies for a job, gets asked what a PhD is!

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 knowledge is power said TAFE don't expect applications from university teachers, They are overqualified! When I last studied in 2016 in TAFE there were talks of teachers being replaced by 'trainers'. It's cheaper apparently. Quality of education will go down if this happens.
...yes, so what was the phd for then anyway. Unless you can get a Uni gig, and they are few and far between, or a public service spot in some vaguely related department, the phd grants you the sublimely absurd status of 'over qualified.' I find that quite tragic.
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26th January 2017, 09:23 PM
 DanDare Religion or Reality, choose... Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Brisbane, Queensland, Australia Posts: 7,485
Re: Professor applies for a job, gets asked what a PhD is!

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 pipbarber said That cert IV qualification is a government scam. It's an utterly meaningless qualification that is required only by government funded tafe institutions (although that seems to be expanding). It can be completed in 3 weeks and can cost as little as $70 (various online schools have random offers at these types of prices), or you can pay$2-3k and take half a year. You get the same bit of paper either way which pretty demonstrates it worth. Anyone, with prior teaching experience will learn...nothing, zilch, naught. This is the blatant and cynical commodification of education.
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