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Evangelicals can rewrite their ethical code fairly fast for expediency.

Here's a Guardian piece on how they accommodate that lying liar of a Trump.
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It’s no problem to be married more than, well, twice
Let’s be clear here. We’re not talking about polygamy (sorry, Mitt), only serial marriages. This revision has been a long time in the making. Yes, Jesus said: “Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery, and whoever marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery.” Through the 1970s, we evangelicals ostracized anyone who was divorced, let alone divorced and remarried. But then we decided to ditch a family man (and fellow evangelical) in favor of a divorced and remarried Hollywood actor in 1980. Once that barrier was breached, we concluded that, hey, if two marriages are okay, why not three?
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Old 19th February 2018, 10:25 AM
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Old 19th February 2018, 11:59 AM
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Old 20th February 2018, 03:07 PM
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The Content of the G.O.P.’s Character

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So what happened to the character of the G.O.P.? I’m pretty sure that in this case the personal is, ultimately, political. The modern G.O.P. is, to an extent never before seen in American history, a party built around bad faith, around pretending that its concerns and goals are very different from what they really are. Flag-waving claims of patriotism, pious invocations of morality, stern warnings about fiscal probity are all cover stories for an underlying agenda mainly concerned with making plutocrats even richer.



In any case, let’s be clear: America in 2018 is not a place where we can disagree without being disagreeable, where there are good people and good ideas on both sides, or whatever other bipartisan homily you want to recite. We are, instead, living in a kakistocracy, a nation ruled by the worst, and we need to face up to that unpleasant reality.
Budgets, Bad Faith and ‘Balance’

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Why have Republicans become so overwhelmingly the party of bad faith? (And not just about budgets, of course; remember when Republicans cared deeply about a president’s sexual morality?) The main answer is probably that the party’s true agenda, dictated by the interests of a handful of super-wealthy donors, would be very unpopular if the public understood it. So the party must consistently lie about its priorities and intentions.

Whatever the reasons for G.O.P. bad faith, however, its reality has been apparent for a long time.

Yet the gatekeepers of our public discourse spent years being willfully blind to this reality.



… many news organizations — which, by the way, gave Ryan years of adoring coverage — treat recent G.O.P. actions as if they are some kind of aberration, a departure from previous principles. They aren’t. Republicans are what they always were: They never cared about deficits; they always wanted to dismantle Medicare, not defend it. They just happen not to be who they pretended to be.

Now, there’s no mystery about why many people won’t face up to the reality of Republican bad faith. Washington is full of professional centrists, whose public personas are built around a carefully cultivated image of standing above the partisan fray, which means that they can’t admit that while there are dishonest politicians everywhere, one party basically lies about everything. News organizations are intimidated by accusations of liberal bias, which means that they try desperately to show “balance” by blaming both parties equally for all problems.

But our job, whether we’re policy analysts or journalists, isn’t to be “balanced”; it’s to tell the truth. And while Democrats are hardly angels, at this point in American history, the truth has a well-known liberal bias.
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There's a theme in this series of OPs from the last 24 hours, drawn from different newspapers. A theme with which I agree:

Whatever Trump is hiding is hurting all of us now

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Democracy is in serious danger.

President Donald Trump is either totally compromised by the Russians or is a towering fool, or both, but either way he has shown himself unwilling or unable to defend America against a Russian campaign to divide and undermine our democracy.

That is, either Trump's real estate empire has taken large amounts of money from shady oligarchs linked to the Kremlin - so much that they literally own him; or rumours are true that he engaged in sexual misbehavior while he was in Moscow running the Miss Universe contest, which Russian intelligence has on tape and he doesn't want released; or Trump actually believes Russian President Vladimir Putin when he says he is innocent of intervening in our elections - over the explicit findings of Trump's own CIA, NSA and FBI chiefs.

In sum, Trump is either hiding something so threatening to himself, or he's criminally incompetent to be commander in chief. It is impossible yet to say which explanation for his behaviour is true, but it seems highly likely that one of these scenarios explains Trump's refusal to respond to Russia's direct attack on our system - a quiescence that is simply unprecedented for any US president in history. Russia is not our friend. It has acted in a hostile manner. And Trump keeps ignoring it all.



Up to now, Trump has been flouting the norms of the presidency. Now Trump's behaviour amounts to a refusal to carry out his oath of office - to protect and defend the US Constitution.



America needs a president who will lead our nation's defence against this attack on the integrity of our electoral democracy.

What would that look like? He would …

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It is so obvious what Trump is up to: Again, he is either a total sucker for Putin or, more likely, he is hiding something that he knows the Russians have on him, and he knows that the longer Mueller's investigation goes on, the more likely he will be to find and expose it.



My guess is what Trump is hiding has to do with money. It's something about his financial ties to business elites tied to the Kremlin. They may own a big stake in him. Who can forget that quote from his son Donald Trump Jr from back in 2008: "Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross section of a lot of our assets." They may own our president.

But whatever it is, Trump is either trying so hard to hide it or is so naive about Russia that he is ready to not only resist mounting a proper defence of our democracy, he's actually ready to undermine some of our most important institutions, the FBI and Justice Department, to keep his compromised status hidden.

That must not be tolerated. This is code red. The biggest threat to the integrity of our democracy today is in the Oval Office.
Trump’s conduct is inexplicable, unless he’s in Putin’s pocket

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When Trump behaves like a Kremlin lackey, it is only natural to assume the Kremlin “has something” on him. …

Whatever Trump’s screwy rationale for not taking reasonable measures to insulate our election system and not calling out Russia (or even disclaiming any “help”), he leaves himself open to the charge that he is violating his oath of office. …

Who Still Thinks Russia Didn’t Meddle in the Election?

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Let’s make this simple:

1. Russia attacked the United States in 2016 by disrupting the presidential election.

2. The origin of the attack is a matter of consensus among American intelligence agencies.

3. The current president of the United States refuses to acknowledge the attack, refuses to respond to it and refuses to help protect the country against a likely follow-up attack.

4. In the wake of the mass murder of 17 Americans in Florida, the president falsely claimed that the F.B.I. failed to prevent the massacre because it was too occupied with the Russia investigation. In doing so, he repeated his frequent lie that the Russian operation did not exist.

There is no longer any doubt that President Trump is failing to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, as he solemnly swore to do.

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America Is Under Attack and the President Doesn't Care
Trump’s gravest responsibility is to defend the United States from foreign attack—and he’s done nothing to fulfill it.


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As the rest of America mourns the victims of the Parkland, Florida, massacre, President Trump took to Twitter.

Not for him the rituals of grief. He is too consumed by rage and resentment. …

Having failed at one presidential duty, to speak for the nation at times of national tragedy, Trump resumed shirking an even more supreme task: defending the nation against foreign attack.

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The new question is this: What has been—what will be—done to protect American democracy from such attacks in the future? The Russian attack in 2016 worked, yielding dividends beyond Vladimir Putin’s wildest hopes ... a Russian-backed individual was installed in the Oval Office.

From that position of power, Trump has systematically attempted to shut down investigations of the foreign-espionage operation that operated on his behalf. He fired the director of the FBI to shut it down. His White House coordinated with the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee to misdirect the investigation. He mobilized the speaker of the House to thwart bipartisan investigations under broadly respected leadership. He has inspired, supported, and joined a national propaganda campaign against the Mueller investigation.

And all the while, Trump has done nothing—literally nothing—to harden the nation’s voting systems against follow-up Russian operations. On Sunday, he publicly repudiated his own national-security adviser for acknowledging at the Munich Security Conference the most incontrovertible basics of what happened in 2016.

It’s worth thinking about what a patriotic president would have done in Trump’s situation …

At every turn, Trump has failed to do what a patriotic president would do—failed to put the national interest first. He has left the 2018 elections as vulnerable as the 2016 elections to Russian intervention on his behalf.

The president’s malignant narcissism surely explains much of this passivity. He cannot endure the thought that he owes the presidency to anything other than his own magnificence. “But wasn’t I a great candidate?” he tweeted plaintively at 7:43 a.m on Sunday morning.

But Americans who cherish democracy and national sovereignty need to start discussing a bigger and darker question.



… in front of our very eyes we can observe that they are leaving the door open to Russian intervention on their behalf in the next election. You might call it collusion in advance—a dereliction of duty as grave as any since President Buchanan looked the other way as Southern state governments pillaged federal arsenals on the eve of the Civil War.
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One thing from David Frum's piece:

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… Last week, Special Counsel Robert Mueller indicted 13 Russian persons and three entities that conspired to violate federal election law, to the benefit of Trump and Republican congressional candidates. This is not the whole of the story by any means. This Mueller indictment references only Russian operations on Facebook. It does not deal with the weaponization of hacked information via WikiLeaks. Or the reports that the Russians funneled millions of dollars of election spending through the NRA’s political action committees ...
Wikileaks and Russia.

The NRA and Russia?!

This thing has a long way to go.
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I find it kinda ironic that 20-30 years ago it seemed that the US and the West "won" the Cold War.

It doesn't look that way now.
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I find it kinda ironic that 20-30 years ago it seemed that the US and the West "won" the Cold War.

It doesn't look that way now.
The US did win, but they didn't finish the job. In geopolitics since about the 14th century no one has really beaten the Russians for good. They might have beaten them for a while, maybe even conquered them, but the Russians just bounce back, maybe change their political structures but they come back eventually.

The biggest difference as I see it, is the cold war was won by the US doing something the Russians didn't get: make the contest about the one thing the Yanks really can do, Technology, Russians have always won playing the numbers game. More troops, tanks, guns, rockets, bombs, planes whatever and being able to operate when others can't (winter anyone?).

So, the Yanks made it about having more "better" technology and after the USA developed the Atom bomb, they learned how to really drive technology development, mainly but shovelling loads of cash at it. The Russians as Soviets couldn't abide by this so made the mistake and took the bait. Pissed money up against the wall cloning the space shuttle (the Buran which flew once only) building bigger planes (Antonov AN-224 Mriya), enormous submarines (Typhoon class, submarines that displaced as more than the average world war II aircraft carrier) and trying to build aircraft supercarriers without any experience doing so and so on trying to keep pace technologically and in greater numbers.

This bankrupted the Russians economically, the difference is losing a war is devastating socially, economically, politically and culturally. Losing an economic war is only generally devastating economically, a touch politically and to some extent socially. Importantly, economic war as happened to the Russians was easier to bounce back from because they didn't wholesale lose their sociopolitical structures and they didn't lose people on mass. In short, the late 1990's for Russia were "lost time" economically but they have bounced back as they are resource rich and didn't lose their soviet era industry base.

In short the US won the war, but didn't have enough of hand in shaping the future Russia (the Russia that bounced back) and the old foe rose again with a new, fitter and younger form.
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