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Old 21st June 2012, 08:23 AM
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TSV page 76,

Saladin and Eugene Dumsday, Creationist and anti drugs campaigner are walking through the markets when they are approached by a drug pusher,

"Hey, mistamerica. yes, unclesam, you want opium, best quality, top price?. Okay you want cocaine?.
Saladin began, helplessly, to giggle. The incident struck him as Darwin's revenge.
If Dumsday held poor, Victorian, starchy Charles responsible for american drug culture, how delicious that he himself should be seen, across the globe, as representing the very ethic he battled so fervently against"

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Old 28th June 2012, 09:56 AM
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"After the trial by Pilate and after the Flagellation of Christ episode, the soldiers mock Jesus as the King of Jews by putting a purple robe (that signifies royal status) on him, place a Crown of Thorns on his head, and beat and mistreat him in"

The Satanic Verses, Salman Rushdie


A plane on which Saladin Chamcha and Gibreel Farishta are flying in to London is hijacked by terrorists who explode a bomb on board, our heros fall from the sky and are washed up on the shores of England.

Page 10, The Angel Gibreel
"They were the only survivors of the wreck., the only ones who fell from Boston and lived. They were found washed up on a beach. The more voluble of the two, the one in the purple bush shirt, swore in his wild ramblings that they had walked upon the water, that the waves had born them gently to shore; but the other, to whose head a soggy bowler hat clung as if by magic, denied this. "God we were lucky", he said, how lucky can you get?.

I know the truth, obviously I watched the whole thing. As to omnipresence and - potence, I'm making no claims at present, but i can manage this much, I hope. Chamcha willed it and Farishta did what was willed.

Which was the miracle worker?
Of what type- angelic, satanic was farishta' song?

Who am I?
lets put it this way; who has the best tunes?



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It's a good book, and I'd really like to read it again, and also more Rushdie. I really don't think it's a criticism of religion at all though. If anything I saw it as a criticism of Western materialism and perhaps arguing that a common ground between the East and West would be ideal, although I guess I was pretty young when I read it, so maybe I'd have a completely different view now (certainly my take on it then was close to my opinions at the time, and they have changed a lot). The fact that it inspired a Fatwa is obviously absurd - not just because of the absurdities of Fatwa's and being offended by literature in general, but I don't think many Muslims who actually read the book would even be offended.

It reminds me a lot of the movie Buffalo Soldier, which I think I saw around the time I read the book (or maybe a year or two later, since I read the book in high school and I think that movie came out when I'd finished) - I saw that movie because the war in Iraq was going on, I was strongly opposed (another issue where I've changed my mind) and there was so much controversy about it - but actually it's not really an anti-war movie at all, or anti-American. Anti-boredom perhaps. I suspect in both cases the people outraged just haven't seen the thing that they're outraged against.
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Old 30th June 2012, 10:36 AM
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The Satanic Verses. Salman Rushdie,

ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS,

The identities of many of the authors from whom Iv'e learned will, I hope be clear from the text, others must remain anonymous, but I thank them, too.

One of those Authors is John M Allegro.

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Mary Magdalene
The Gospel of Philip has been cited for the theory that Jesus married Mary Magdalene.[10] Much of the Gospel of Philip is dedicated to a discussion of marriage as a sacred mystery, and two passages directly refer to Mary Magdalene and her close relationship with Jesus:
There were three who always walked with the Lord: Mary, his mother, and her sister, and Magdalene, the one who was called his companion. His sister and his mother and his companion were each a Mary.
That passage is also interesting for its mention of Jesus's sister (Jesus's unnamed sisters are mentioned in the New Testament at Mark 6:3), although the text is confusing on that point: she appears to be described first as the sister of Jesus's mother Mary, then as the sister of Jesus, although this may be a translation problem. Mary Magdalene is called Jesus's companion, partner or consort, using the word koinônos (κοινωνός), [11] of Greek origin, and the word hôtre, of Egyptian origin.[12] The other passage referring to Mary Magdalene is incomplete because of damage to the original manuscript. Several words are missing. The best guesses as to what they were are shown below in brackets. Most notably there is a hole in the manuscript after the phrase "and used to kiss her often on her...." But the passage appears to describe Jesus kissing Magdalene, apparently described as "barren" and "the mother of the angels" at the beginning of the relevant paragraph and using a parable to explain to the disciples why he loved her more than he loved them:


The Satanic Verses.

Page 27

Rehka complained like crazy, she gave him hell, she bawled him out and cursed him for a useless lafanga and haramzada and salah and even, in extremis, for being guilty of the impossible feat of fucking the sister he did not have.

She spared him nothing, accusing him of being a creature of surfaces, like a movie screen, and then she went ahead and forgave him anyway and allowed him to unhook her blouse.

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"My god My god why hast though foresaken me?"

He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him." It is possible that at some moment on the cross, when Jesus became sin on our behalf, that God the Father, in a sense, turned His back upon the Son. It says in Hab. 1:13 that God is too pure to look upon evil. Therefore, it is possible that when Jesus bore our sins in His body on the cross (1 Pet. 2:24), that the Father, spiritually, turned away. At that time, the Son may have cried out

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Gibreel

During his illness he had spent every moment of conciousness calling upon God, every second of every minute. Ya Allah whose servant lies bleeding, do not abandon me now, after watching over me for so long. Ya allah show me some sign, some small mark of your favour, that I may find in myself the strength to cure my ills.

O God, most beneficent,most merciful to be with me in this my time of need, my most gracious God, then it occurred to him that he was being punished and for a time that made it possible to suffer the pain, but after a time he got angry. Enough,God, his unspoken words demanded .why must I die when I have not killed, are you vengeance or are you love ? The anger with god carried him through another day but then it faded and in its place came a terrible emptiness, an isolation as he realised he was talking to thin air. .


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