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Old 28th June 2017, 03:16 PM
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Margaret,

As the Humanist Chaplain at Canberra Hospital I tend to the pastoral care needs of people who identify as:
- humanist
- atheist
- agnostic
- heretic
- unbeliever
- rationalist
- seeker
- materialist
- freethinker
- heathen
- non-theist
- apostate
- pagan
- skeptic
- Pastafarian
- irreligionist
- atheist Buddhist
- scientific skeptic
- spiritual but not religious, or
- otherwise identify as having no religion.

The latest census data states that this group is now the largest "religious" group in Australia at 30.1%.

Approximately 71% of patients attending the Canberra Hospital self-identify as not having a religion.

Can you assure me that there are not a single member of the ADF that fit into one or more of these categories?

Yours sincerely

Mr X
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The Canberra Hospital
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Old 28th June 2017, 03:54 PM
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Interesting extract from this publication:

“Guide to Religion and Belief in the Australian Defence Force

PDF - https://content.defencejobs.gov.au/p...in_the_ADF.pdf

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PART ONE: LEGISLATION AND POLICY
Commonwealth and State legislation provide the legal foundation for the free exercise of religion and belief in the community, including employment opportunities. All personnel are reminded that whilst we have Defence policy which must be complied with, nothing in Defence policy can authorise the breaching of Australian law.

ADF members are recruited from the Australian community, subject to specific exemptions related to citizenship, age and gender, health and fitness, and behaviour and appearance. Defence policies are in place to ensure that all members of the ADF are treated equitably throughout their period of service. Defence policies require compliance as a minimum to ensure
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"no member of the ADF has identified themselves with the Humanists in their personal information"


Is there an option for them to do so?
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"no member of the ADF has identified themselves with the Humanists in their personal information"


Is there an option for them to do so?
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Reply sent:

Quote:
Margaret,

As the Humanist Chaplain at Canberra Hospital I tend to the pastoral care needs of people who identify as:
- humanist
- atheist
- agnostic
- heretic
- unbeliever
- rationalist
- seeker
- materialist
- freethinker
- heathen
- non-theist
- apostate
- pagan
- wiccan
- skeptic
- Pastafarian
- irreligionist
- atheist Buddhist
- scientific skeptic
- spiritual but not religious, or
- otherwise identify as having no religion.

The latest census data states that this group is now the largest "religious" group in Australia at 30.1%.

Approximately 71% of patients attending the Canberra Hospital self-identify as not having a religion.

Can you assure me that there are no members of the ADF that fit into one or more of these categories?

Additionally is there the ability for ADF members to identify themselves in the above manner?

What are the current categories from which members can choose?

Yours sincerely

Dr Justin X
Humanist Chaplain
The Canberra Hospital
EDIT: note some changes made.

Thank you for your feedback.
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Old 6th July 2017, 11:02 AM
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I guess the next step is an FOI request for their data on who ADF members religiously identify.
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