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Old 23rd February 2012, 01:33 PM
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@ loubert - "someone tighten the connection"

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Dark energy, on the other hand, is just code for “we don’t know what’s causing the acceleration”.
Given my understanding of matter and energy EG the 1st law of thermodynamics if we have some evidence for dark matter (gravitational lensing) I would think it reasonable to posit dark energy also.
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You did get me there on the dark matter part I do admit.

This is the simplest way to expalin why I think "dark energy" is bull. "It's acceleration becasue god makes it" is akin to "it's acceleration becasue dark energy makes it".
Hey Spud Henley grabb some popcorn and watch this, it might help explain.

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Old 23rd February 2012, 09:40 PM
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Looks like the reason has been found.
Oh FFS, how can it be such a basic error?
Surely that would be the first thing you'd check - over and over again...
And why it take so long?

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Old 24th February 2012, 06:35 AM
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Oh FFS, how can it be such a basic error?
Surely that would be the first thing you'd check - over and over again...
And why it take so long?

Dave.
Firstly, there is a lot of equipment, checking some of it is not a trivial task, and this was "only" a fibre optic cable.

In any event, they may have found two errors, not one, with the second (an oscillator) pushing the result in the opposite direction so that the neutrinos were travelling even faster.

Being good little scientists, they will be running the experiment again in May.

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Looking like Bert Onebeer has been reconfirmed :
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Neutrinos do not go faster than light, according to fresh measurements of a test last year that had suggested the particles broke the Universe's speed limit, CERN said on Friday.
The new measurements were made by a team working independently from the scientists who had made the tentative but hugely controversial claim about "faster-than-light" particles.
Their findings "indicate the neutrinos do not exceed the speed of light," the European Centre for Nuclear Research (CERN) said in a press release.
CERN said last month there may have been technical hitches that had skewed the initial measurements, something that critics of the findings said they had always suspected.
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interesting write up.


Perhaps nature has sorted out that the speed of light cannot be exceeded. Time will tell though.
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Perhaps nature has sorted out that the speed of light cannot be exceeded. Time will tell though.
nature? Nature?
time? Time?
Speed will be told by time?

Coach, you are confusing the shit out of me over which ambiguity I should take as the joke
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Old 23rd March 2012, 05:42 PM
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nature? Nature?
time? Time?
Speed will be told by time?

Coach, you are confusing the shit out of me over which ambiguity I should take as the joke

Well...I admit I did write that a little tongue in cheek.
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Space-time will tell, maybe?
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