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Old 2nd June 2009, 06:23 PM
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Default Debunking speaking in tongues

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Mind you, I cracked up in the first Star Wars movie, when the critter seemed to say, "Ni hao, Jabba" to his Huttiness.
Reminds me of speaking in tongues;
It is just randomly saying things that come out from the tip of your tongue. Most often something you are familiar with.

I belief it is therefore easily debunked.

Reminds me of a story on psychology that we can apply. (I just remember the geist of it, sorry can't quote source)

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A researcher went to a well known mental institution and tried to get himself admitted. When questioned, he replied the psychologist with every symptom from the book. After he was successfully identified as a madman, he revealed how flawed the system was.

Later he made a challenge to the institution. That for the following month, he will send several pseudo patients to test them again.

Lo and behold, the institution was able to pick out a significant number of fakes sent by the researcher.

"Alas," the researcher exclaimed. "I didn't send anybody."
If something is made on a lie, then other lies must be perceived as truth to support its credibility. (confusing myself here :P)

There can only be 2 types of ppl who speak/interprets in tongues.
1. Con men
2. Deluded ppl.

In both cases it is easily debunked.

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1. Pretend to be a faithful
2. Infiltrate their church and become 1 of them.
3. Have them perform a speaking in tongues miracle,
4. Turn on a voice recorder.
5. When it is your turn, say nonsense like "Fools you should join is lam" or something of that sort, in a language that you know none in church understands.
6. The deluded or conman will unknowingly interpret your words as instructions from the lord or something.
7. Let them use your words over and over a few times in the sermon.
8. At the end of the session (or maybe longer, just not too long as ppl will forget), reveal to them what you actually said.
9. Play back the recording in case they don't believe you.

Whether anybody would do it:

It depends, how evil an individual atheist is at breaking peoples hopes (false) or in some cases breaking a con-man's rice bowl.
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Old 2nd June 2009, 06:56 PM
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Default Re: Debunking speaking in tongues

This joke highlights the problems with self-delusion:

The inmate was hooked up to a lie-detector and asked if he really was Napoleon.

He really did think he was Napoleon but he also knew that a positive response would "prove" that he was insane - so he answered "No."

And the machine registered a lie!
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Old 2nd June 2009, 07:07 PM
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the gloss was recorded and analized some years ago, very repetitive and imitative , if they gave the subjects an idea of how it sounds, subjects used that to imitate something close to what they had heard
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Old 2nd June 2009, 07:42 PM
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yes i laughed but with some empathy for the ones who dont escape .
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Old 2nd June 2009, 08:26 PM
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the language part of the brain thing you expressed blackie, makes a lot of sense, babies do it before they learn language. i could imagine that millions of years ago we would have made just such sounds slowly these vocalizations may have been formalised into a language and understood. eg googeyegg
the comical cannibal chief in many of the old movies would be made to speak gooblegookl
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Old 2nd June 2009, 08:38 PM
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kdsjfhsdk adoi9 wqijlqja adda ajlsjfsfoij sdk sa d aopa ap asddoapd asoerieir asdkakpao asdeqe pp!

Praise the bored!

. . . was that glossotypogria?
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Old 9th August 2010, 02:41 PM
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The following video clearly shows that tongues, prophecy and knowledge have ceased.



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Old 9th August 2010, 03:05 PM
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Good grief. I think I'll bite my tongue(s)

Looking forward to your introduction thread in the New Members section, CI.
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James likens listening to the word of god to looking in a mirror
Quite so.
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Old 9th August 2010, 03:24 PM
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I'm confused now. I learnt something very interesting about brocolli this morning. Now you tell me that knowledge has ceased, so what can I call it when I learn new things? This was something humans only found out about recently, so what can humanity call something just recently learned? If it's not knowledge then what is it?
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