If God doesn't exist then...

[Mjt]

Originally Posted by Makeen

Trust me, if you could see god as you are now your hair would turn white and you would die a shocking death.

Really? Why?

[Centauri]

Originally Posted by Makeen

Trust me, if you could see god as you are now your hair would turn white and you would die a shocking death.

You just made that up.

It's not honourable to pretend you know things that you don't know.

[Darwinsbulldog]

Originally Posted by Loki

Kill yourself.


Besides, everyone knows pi is 3.

Someone has been spending too much time at talk rational!

[rayne]

Originally Posted by Makeen

Sorry been quite busy. Found some time to contribute again.

I have to say, you atheists are certainly a stubborn bunch. "Show me god outright and I'll believe in him" that is your attitude isn't it? Trust me, if you could see god as you are now your hair would turn white and you would die a shocking death.

Lets keep things simple. Let me announce some points that are simple and logical and that I would be surprised for you to disagree with.

1. Does mathematics follow laws? Yes
2. Did these laws exist before we named them mathematics? Yes (If you say no then why did we come across these laws and call them mathematics?)
3. Therefore did these laws exist before us? Yes (if you say no then again, why did we come across these laws and call them mathematics?)
4. Are these laws a language? Yes
5. Did this language exist before us? Yes
6. If this language existed before us then does that not prove the presence of an intelligent entity that existed before us that knows the laws we call mathematics? As I said language is a form of expression, a method of communication, so if this language existed before us then who is that language known by? Language is a form of expression so does that not prove an intelligent entity that existed before us has expressed themselves? Therefore proving that the laws we call mathematics is known and was known before us?

Does that not prove the presence of God?

No. Not once have you shown evidence for your god.

[geodesik]

Originally Posted by Makeen

If you could see god as you are now your hair would turn white and you would die a shocking death ...

So spooky. Kind of like what would happen to you if you spent a few minutes listening to my heavy metal playlist ... Grandma! Grandma!

Originally Posted by Ces

Maths did not exist before us [...] alot of the things we observe existed before us, and we invented maths to describe them. Some people invented gods to describe them, but maths is easier to understand because you can test it.

Nailed it. Johannes Kepler is a great example of a mathematician who wanted to find god, but ultimately had the courage to face the painful truth that the math just doesn't lead in that direction.

[Sir Patrick Crocodile]

Originally Posted by Makeen

I have to say, you atheists are certainly a stubborn bunch. "Show me god outright and I'll believe in him" that is your attitude isn't it?

Stubborn bunch? That's a laugh. Perhaps you're not used to people who have a low tolerance for dangerous bullshit.

Originally Posted by Makeen

Trust me, if you could see god as you are now your hair would turn white and you would die a shocking death.

Yes. I recall the time when God showed up with a bottle of peroxide. My hair did indeed turn white, and after we both played with the Van der Graaf generator, I touched a metal doorknob and had a religious experience. We had death metal while this was happening. God's quite a death metal kinda guy. And just before he decided to transform himself into a wafer, he told me "hah, I trolled those Christians with the Bible and now I'm gonna do it again!"

Originally Posted by Makeen

Lets keep things simple. Let me announce some points that are simple and logical and that I would be surprised for you to disagree with.

1. Does mathematics follow laws? Yes
2. Did these laws exist before we named them mathematics? Yes (If you say no then why did we come across these laws and call them mathematics?)
3. Therefore did these laws exist before us? Yes (if you say no then again, why did we come across these laws and call them mathematics?)
4. Are these laws a language? Yes
5. Did this language exist before us? Yes
6. If this language existed before us then does that not prove the presence of an intelligent entity that existed before us that knows the laws we call mathematics? As I said language is a form of expression, a method of communication, so if this language existed before us then who is that language known by? Language is a form of expression so does that not prove an intelligent entity that existed before us has expressed themselves? Therefore proving that the laws we call mathematics is known and was known before us?

Does that not prove the presence of God?

No, all it proves is that people managed to make discoveries. And that you seem to be well trained in idiotic semantics games which make no sense whatsoever. No evidence whatsoever in that post. Maybe I'll find it at the pub.

[the_gelf]

Lol this thread is still going? I see an angry theist making threats of how powerful his god is. I wonder where he got that garbage from, I'm sure it's not written anywhere in his holy book, of which thousands of copies are burned, shredded and defiled per day.

/eats, shoots, and leaves

[tjarm69]

Originally Posted by Loki

Don't know why I'm bothering.

I like it!!