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Old 28th February 2017, 10:35 AM
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Cat-licks iz white folks.
More seriously, I suspect child abuse in Muslim communities may be under-reported. Eating the young has had a long tradition in all Abrahamic religions.
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Old 28th February 2017, 02:28 PM
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The internet has been flooded with zealous bigots, mostly Christian hypocrites, screaming that everything about Islam is EVIL. So I didn't have the patience to sift out the bullshit from the credible.

But in the current climate, with Trump and his ilk in the ascendancy, you'd have to conclude that a Muslim cleric who lusted after under age sex would be well protected by his position. That cover-up urge which worked so well for the Catholics for so long would still be in place.

It's the same for other religions with "outsider" status, Jehovah's, 7th Day Adventists etc. They keep it in house, when the offenders should be in jail.

Basically ANY religious person with children needs to keep a close eye when the kids are around clerics.

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Old 28th February 2017, 02:40 PM
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The internet has been flooded with zealous bigots, mostly Christian hypocrites, screaming that everything about Islam is EVIL. So I didn't have the patience to sift out the bullshit from the credible.

But in the current climate, with Trump and his ilk in the ascendancy, you'd have to conclude that a Muslim cleric who lusted after under age sex would be well protected by his position. That cover-up urge which worked so well for the Catholics for so long would still be in place.

It's the same for other religions with "outsider" status, Jehovah's, 7th Day Adventists etc. They keep it in house, when the offenders should be in jail.

Basically ANY religious person with children needs to keep a close eye when the kids are around clerics.
Not only do they keep it in-house, they fail to see that it is wrong. Clerics are often transferred, sometimes with promotions. The idea is not the safety of the children, because the predator just goes to a new feeding ground. The idea is to avoid fallout in that parish, and thus protect the church. As far as I know, no medical treatment, or involvement of law enforcement or courts was involved.
Of course, this child abuse had to have been going on for centuries, but only relatively recently has it been regarded as criminal by society. Back in the old days, I guess parents just viewed it as a fact of life. The Lord [temporal] or ecclesiastic] had the right to demand sexual favours from their social inferiors, regardless of age or sex. [Classical] feudalism is gone, but religions often find it very hard to keep up, especially something that will limit their former privileges or interests.
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I have heard from a former inmate of the children's homes in Australia that this sort of thing happened in Australia too
http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/...C&ocid=SL5MDHP
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Apparently the Newcastle Anglicans are sad that sexual abuse has a cost: Linky

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Newcastle's Anglican Diocese says it may have to sell church assets to make up a $1 million shortfall in the amount due to be paid to survivors of abuse this financial year.
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Newcastle's Anglican Diocese says it may have to sell church assets to make up a $1 million shortfall in the amount due to be paid to survivors of abuse this financial year.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaw. I have a tiny little violin playing just for them.
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Bishop Peter Stuart said despite the significant deficit, everyone entitled to compensation would receive it.
How fucking magnanimous of him.
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Child abuse royal commission: Justice McClellan warns churches to change or risk illegitimacy

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In a speech to the National Council of Churches, the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse chairman Justice Peter McClellan urged religious leaders to act on his recommendations.

"What we can be certain of is that any institution which does not acknowledge past wrongs and the need for change will lose the confidence of Australians," he said via a recorded video.

"The community will not accept the legitimacy of any institution which does not give priority to the safety and wellbeing of the children for which it has responsibility."

Justice McClellan detailed the exhaustive work of Australia's largest royal commission, which has examined 1.2 million documents and heard evidence from more than 1,200 witnesses over 440 sitting days.

Fifty-nine per cent of abuse reported to the royal commission has come from within religious institutions.

Justice McClellan revealed the commission had referred 2,025 cases to police and other authorities but only 127 have been acted upon.
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Charges For Big George?

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"Victoria Police can confirm that it has received advice from the Director of Public Prosecutions relating to a current investigation into historical sexual assault allegations," she said.

"As with any investigation it will be a decision for Victoria Police as to whether charges are laid. As this remains an ongoing investigation, we will not be commenting further at this time."
It is well past time for the matter of Pell's guilt or innocence to be publicly tested.
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I may be just me, but it seems to me that the churches, in general, have long since given up any legitimacy, moral authority, or standing as organisations that reasonable persons might associate themselves with.


This is because of the fierce resistance to accepting that there was a problem; then fierce resistance to doing anything; only pretending to act; and apparently residual perplexity that people have concerns about kiddy fiddling by churchfolk.


Or in other words - and this is in general, there are exceptions at individual levels - they hid it, and now it's out they're still not sorry and maintain a broad "fuck you, what's your problem" attitude.


Well, fuck them.
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