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Old 7th August 2017, 06:34 PM
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Default Liberal Party votes no change on same-sex marriage policy

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-0...rriage/8781894

So they still want a non-binding plebecite. It lets Australians "have their say".

If Australians say No then the party will be bound to say No even if they want to vote Yes.
If Australians say Yes then those that want to vote Yes can, but those that want to vote No still can vote No.
In otherwords Australians can say what they like, as long as it is No.
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Old 7th August 2017, 06:41 PM
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The old "unpopular choices, which GovCo then decides on anyhow" trick, as previously seen in John Howard's "You Don't Want Any Republic Like The Ones We Offer" referendum.

When it suited Johnny Eyebrows, he bent the Marriage Act over the table and buggered it without as much as a by-your-leave.
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Old 7th August 2017, 06:44 PM
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A predictable outcome from our conservative overlords.
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Old 7th August 2017, 06:54 PM
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Take it to the next election. We just have to wait but that would be better than a half arsed postal vote, run by Australia post (lol), that isnt even binding. What happens if the 'nos' win? Labor, if they have any chance, still take it to the next election and we get to enter the 21st century on this issue in 2019 instead of 2018.

Our conservative brethren are pissing into a fucking hurricane. How righteous is your stance when its covered in your own urine for the ultimate outcome of helping no one. Nothing will change, nothing will happen, no one will even fucking notice that SSM is happening (except those involved obviously). It will change...nothing, beyond giving a small percentage of people a right the majority already have.

OMfuckingGod this issue boils my blood.
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So they still want a non-binding plebecite. It lets Australians "have their say".
this just occurred to me when I was reading about this on The Age.

MPs are elected to represent their constituency: a small # of people in a given area. yes, they are in federal parliament but their primary role - by definition - is to represent their constituency. aren't they already supposed to know what they think? I mean, you would have thought it'd be a prerequisite to be able to do your job.
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Old 7th August 2017, 08:39 PM
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So they still want a non-binding plebecite. It lets Australians "have their say".
this just occurred to me when I was reading about this on The Age.

MPs are elected to represent their constituency: a small # of people in a given area. yes, they are in federal parliament but their primary role - by definition - is to represent their constituency. aren't they already supposed to know what they think? I mean, you would have thought it'd be a prerequisite to be able to do your job.
To be fair they say before the election "this is what I think" and then assume the people who voted for them 100% agree with it all.
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The Liberal party desperately trying to appear to be modern, but being actually stone-age. Nothing new to see here folks, move along!
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The Liberals are more beholden to their religious puppeteers than Labor is to the unions, IMO.
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The Liberals are more beholden to their religious puppeteers than Labor is to the unions, IMO.

Yeah, 'bout time we had an atheist PM!
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