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Old 12th December 2017, 08:07 PM
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Damn. And there I was getting ready to boil the tar and collect pitchforks!

Does my Voodoo Doll count? I could use smaller needles, these 9 inch nails are so very hard to extract from the table top!
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Damn. And there I was getting ready to boil the tar and collect pitchforks!

Does my Voodoo Doll count? I could use smaller needles, these 9 inch nails are so very hard to extract from the table top!
My kangaroo bone with (redacted) will claim the victory.
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I watched much of his televised testimony to the commission... he is an extremely arrogant man. I think he will turn up and defend himself, and exercise his superiority complex.
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I watched much of his televised testimony to the commission... he is an extremely arrogant man. I think he will turn up and defend himself, and exercise his superiority complex.
I hope he does that as much as possible when he testifies - the prosecution will love it!
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Sadly, Damian Dignan won't be here to see a conclusion to the Pell case.

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Lawyer Ingrid Irwin, who represented Mr Dignan, said his speaking out was integral in bringing the investigation forward.

"Without Damian Dignan there wouldn't be anything happening," Ms Irwin said.

Ms Irwin said her client had a profound impact on her.

"I saw Damian as a brave Ballarat boy and his legacy lives on.

"People might say, 'What could he have ever been? He was a nothing anyway', but that's what breaks it – people like Damian coming forward. He had potential like anyone else."

Ms Irwin took aim at the justice system which left men such as Mr Dignan waiting for compensation.

"Why did he have to die before he could see some semblance of justice – why is that?"
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George Pell's legal team denied access to complainants' medical records - ABC

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Lawyers for George Pell have been denied access to the medical records of his complainants as they prepare the Cardinal's defence against historical sexual offence charges.

Cardinal Pell's defence barristers made an application to subpoena the private records at a hearing last week, arguing it was not a "fishing expedition" but instead believed the documents would contain evidence important to the case.

But Magistrate Belinda Wallington has denied the application.

It is expected to come as a relief to the complainants, who had requested the court ensure their privacy was maintained.

Cardinal Pell was not present for today's hearing but will return to the Melbourne Magistrates' Court on March 5 for what is expected to be a month-long committal hearing to determine whether there is enough evidence for the case to go to trial.

He is fighting historical sexual offence charges involving multiple complainants.

No other details of the case against him can be reported for legal reasons.

Cardinal Pell's committal hearing will be closed to the public and the media for up to two weeks as the complainants give their evidence, as required under legislation.
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Irrespective of the outcome of this trial [and I sincerely hope all goes well for the numerous victims], I doubt this will fundamentally change anything. The Pope, as corporate leader, will still try to slander the victims as he has been, and so will his successors. The RC church may suffer a dip in popularity for a while, but I doubt it will end. Nor will it fundamentally change its ways. The same for all organised religions really. They are immortal. They are transnational, which means one has to get the close coordination and agreement of some 200 nations to get these evil organisations to come to heel. The last time a government successfully dissolved a corporation was in 1874, when the British Parliament dissolved the East India Company [although its defacto rule was ended by the Government of India Act 1858.

So even if Pell is found guilty and held to account, there are others, and will continue to be others, because that is what the RC church does. Pell may be personally responsible for his actions, but he is also a creature of the church, and I doubt enough people and nations will realise that the problem is systemic, and not just a case of a few "bad eggs".
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A high ranking church leader being formally charged and convicted of sex crimes? My hope is that it will put other leaders on notice.
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A high ranking church leader being formally charged and convicted of sex crimes? My hope is that it will put other leaders on notice.
I hope it does have an effect. But the new pope is still accusing victims of slander. I doubt much will change if Pell gets convicted.
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Ongoing - ABC - Cardinal George Pell's legal team denied access to complainant's prison medical records

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Cardinal George Pell's legal team have been denied access to the prison medical records of one of the complainants in the case against him.

The barristers representing the 73-year-old were last week denied access to the medical records of complainants who had sought treatment in the community.

But they persisted with an application to subpoena medical records from Justice Health, which provides medical services in Victorian prisons, arguing those documents were not treated as confidential under the Corrections Act and could be provided to a third party without a prisoner's consent.

But Magistrate Belinda Wallington has denied the request, telling the hearing that even prisoners have the right to keep their medical records confidential.

"My view is that despite the limits of confidentiality for the purposes of prison security, the records are confidential for all other purposes," she said.

"My view is that they are protected communications."
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