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Old 22nd August 2017, 07:33 PM
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Fucking welfare users! Sucking up our taxes and spending all our money on drugs.

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Ok, firstly, the double entendre created by the word 'users' is offensive to me mostly because people don't 'use' centerlink, they suffer it in order to avoid starvation. Secondly, whoever comes up with these policies has no fucking idea how much drugs cost!

Newstart is around $330 bucks a week, with rent assistance? So after rent, food, bills, petrol or public transport, these welfare users are going out and spending it up big time on ice and ciggies and beer and sweet weed? Are they fucking delusional? If anyone can manage to live off $330 a week and afford one $50 packet of cigarettes a week i'd suggest they should be immediately employed by the federal treasury, because they know how to budget.

Hang on, there is another solution. Abolish welfare! Pretty simple, just do away with it.

Why is no one standing on the abolish welfare platform? Because if you squeeze welfare down to $330 a week and more or less keep it there for a few more years recipients will not be able to rent an abode (think Sydney/Melbourne) and will couch surf or sleep in the park and really, why not just get wasted? So if that's the plan, why not just abolish welfare altogether?

You know what i think, bashing welfare recipients is the last recourse of scoundrels, cowards, bullies and people that are no better than bleating sheep.
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Old 22nd August 2017, 07:50 PM
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Western Sydney, 2016 -
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The Western Sydney Regional Organisation of Councils (WSROC) have called for greater federal investment Western Sydney arts in order help the region tackle its rising jobs deficit.

WSROC President Cllr Tony Hadchiti said our federal leaders have recognised the importance of addressing Western Sydney’s jobs deficit, however there has been no commitment to building the West’s cultural and creative industries.

Western Sydney’s overall jobs deficit currently sits at 200,000. Of those who leave the region for work each day, 30,000 are employed in the creative and cultural industries,” said Cllr Hadchiti.
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Welfare users are jist lazy, otherwise they would be billionaires and we could make Oz grate agin'.
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Welfare users are jist lazy, otherwise they would be billionaires and we could make Oz grate agin'.
Well, yes that's the thing. The fact of 'welfare people' and poor people in general is nothing more than a blatant challenge to the obvious perfection of our current system and they are just being poor to try and prove their point. They wouldn't be poor if they just got over themselves because the system is perfect. Fucking aresholes and their...deliberate poverty.
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If they didn't want to be lazy unemployed people why did they get themselves born in areas where intergenerational unemployment is rife? Lazy bastards could have gotten themselves born in a wealthy suburb and then they could claim to have worked hard for their lot.

What shits me about this, and everything else at the moment, is that none of it is new - this crap has been going on forever and people have written brilliant arguments against it. Steinbeck's 'The Grapes of Wrath' is an incredible portrait of people who have been dealt a shit hand, and Hunter S Thompson's article on Nixon in 'The Great Shark Hunt' could have been written about Trump, the situation he describes in uncannily similar, though I feel robbed that I cannot read his version of the article updated for 2017.

The comfortable majority don't give a fuck, never have and never will.
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I think something the pup has alluded to several times recently is prescient here. People, we, identify very deeply with our ideas and beliefs. When someone challenges our ideas, it is akin to a challenging of our identity-it's personal. Poverty is a challenge to the idea that our economic/sociological system is great, superior beyond critique. Therefore poverty is a challenge to us personally and consequentially the evil in the room are the poor - they are attacking our identity! It's a personal attack by the destitute.

If there's any truth in that, our society is fucked.
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I think something the pup has alluded to several times recently is prescient here. People, we, identify very deeply with our ideas and beliefs. When someone challenges our ideas, it is akin to a challenging of our identity-it's personal. Poverty is a challenge to the idea that our economic/sociological system is great, superior beyond critique. Therefore poverty is a challenge to us personally and consequentially the evil in the room are the poor - they are attacking our identity! It's a personal attack by the destitute.

If there's any truth in that, our society is fucked.
We are fucked. Many people have made the knock-out arguments against shit like this, and it persists - wheeled out as an easy kill for political expediency - cause society laps it up. Fuck the poor, they deserve it.

Malcolm Turnbull knew the gay marriage plebiscite would be ugly, but he ran with a version of it anyway, telling us we were mature enough to have a reasonable discussion about it and knowing full well how fucking hateful it would turn out. He knew it and did it anyway. Good arguments are ignored for populist bullshit, time and time again. We are fucked.
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Chuck in 'no such thing as global warming', Trump, Abbott, NK, Islamic fascism...and its tricky to summon the optimism right now.
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Chuck in 'no such thing as global warming', Trump, Abbott, NK, Islamic fascism...and its tricky to summon the optimism right now.
ABC telly news had some hoo-ha about how people over 50 are increasing use of drink and drugs. It's post hoc, and for my two cents it's bloody well propter hoc.
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Unemployment benefits not enough for recipients to afford basic needs, study finds - ABC

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Australians on unemployment benefits are falling far short of affording basic necessities week to week, a new analysis has found.

Among their findings, are that the welfare payment for a single, unemployed person needs to increase by $96 a week to $433, while an unemployed couple with no children should be provided $107 more than they do currently.

Peter Saunders, who led the research, said the findings suggest a change is needed in how Newstart payments are determined independent of government.

"We should be looking at whether or not it's time to introduce a mechanism, a bit like the minimum wage process, for Newstart allowance and possibly for other social benefits," Professor Saunders said.

"These are very tight budgets to achieve what we call a healthy standard of living, so that all the family members are healthy in terms of what they eat, they do, [and whether they] exercise.
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