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“The government’s policy remains the same until it’s changed, Laura”

That was Malcolm Turnbull responding to the Fin’s Laura Tingle on why he has changed his mind on a banking royal commission, that just hours ago, he was explaining there was no need for.
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Further to Mr. B's post, Amy Remeikis, In The Guardian's “Politics Live” blog:

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I know it has been a busy morning, but could I make a late suggestion for quote of the year? (It was in the blog earlier, but it is still making me chuckle):

“The government’s policy remains the same until it’s changed, Laura.”

That was Malcolm Turnbull responding to the Fin’s Laura Tingle on why he has changed his mind on a banking royal commission that, just hours ago, he was explaining there was no need for.

We have reached the very zen level of Turnbull’s prime ministership. I may get that put on a t-shirt.
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... I don't do surrender very well ...
Turnbull does. At least, he does it often.

What's in a name?

Turn = to change course, to reverse
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Mark Kenny in Fairfax:

Banking royal commission: Government in name only as Malcolm Turnbull loses control of the politics

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There have been plenty of bizarre "firsts" this year, like finding out the deputy prime minister was not a member of Parliament.

Or watching a Prime Minister slam dual citizenship allegations as a disgraceful witch hunt, right up until he introduced a Parliament-wide citizenship register.

But the spectacle of a government being dragged kicking and screaming to conduct a royal commission it had utterly, repeatedly, indignantly opposed, until two days ago, was almost too much to take in.

Driven by the prospect of a humiliating loss on the floor of the Parliament, Malcolm Turnbull and Scott Morrison did not mask their contempt in policy terms for a "regrettable" inquiry process to which they had just allocated $75 million and a heap of government attention and resources.

In his pre-capitulation phase (i.e. 24 hours ago), Turnbull would have welcomed John Howard saying he would be "staggered" if a royal commission into the banks was ever called by a Coalition government.

Now, however, what Howard regarded as unthinkable and had dubbed "rank socialism" is government policy – an emergency intervention to protect the financial system.

No one's buying it.

Yes, there was a rapidly worsening risk equation here but it wasn't declining confidence in the banks the PM was worried about, so much as collapsing confidence in the government itself.

In the end, Turnbull realised the mortal threat from a party room in open revolt.

What followed was utter capitulation, powerlessness personified, marked by a theatrically exaggerated attack on the opposition for backing the royal commission when plainly it was Turnbull's own troops who had forced his hand.

As for the banks, who we're told asked for the inquiry, it seems their "political" antennae was more attuned to the forces threatening to swamp the government, than the government itself.
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It could be that the banks would prefer a Turnbull-defined Royal Commission to one which took an interest in the welfare of bank victims - linky

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Chris Bowen has weighed in on the banking royal commission:

Malcolm Turnbull’s banking royal commission is unravelling already, with revelations banking victims’ groups were not even consulted on its Terms of References.

It’s becoming clear that the Turnbull Government worked with the banks to help develop its terms of references, not victims or their representatives.

The Government is deliberately limiting the scope of the Royal Commission to deny victims the chance to tell their stories.
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Another Open Letter to Malcolm, that will acheive nothing beyond the catharsis of screaming into the void:

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It must feel like shit, to be so fucking powerless and at the mercy of the vested interests in the party room.


How's about you grow a fucking spine and go out in a blaze of glory, using your position to do the right fucking thing for a change?


Sure, actually doing the right thing by the goddamned populace you supposedly govern for will destroy your current political career, as the amoral pricks you've allied with in your unholy bargain for power you don't actually have turn on you, but at least you'll garner the fucking respect of the punters, and maybe you'll sleep easier at night.


See, because this is what you've done: you made a deal with the fucking devil, to become the Prime Minister of Australia, the most powerful office in the land. But the terms of your deal mean that the only way for you to actually wield that power was as a puppet of that very devil you deal with. Which means you have less than no power, because you have no integrity and no self-determination.


Here's a thing to fucking ponder, whilst you're miserating over the invidious position you bargained yourself into: the vast majority of the ills that plague us, that in theory you're supposed to do something about, rest in a lack of self-determination.


The refugees tortured at your fucking behest on Manus were seeking self-determination, and you fucking ripped that from them. Our First Nations people subject to the inhumane Intervention in the Northern Territory: a dehumanisation by means of denying them self-determination. Every single uneducated, unemployed, unsupported citizen who falls through the cracks of our society: refused self-determination.


That powerlessness you feel? That's something to be fucking fought, tooth and goddamned nail, on behalf of yourself and all others. That is the moral imperative of governance, Malcolm. That's the very reason for your fucking existence, as a human and as an inhabitor of our highest elected office.


To refuse that moral burden, to simply succumb to the corruption that lies at the heart of power, is an act of abject fucking cowardice, and one I couldn't live with.
Sometimes, I wish there was a god, so some form of justice was assured. Alas, it isn't the case, so I can only appeal to your conscience, in the hope that it is less mythical.


Please, Malcolm. Do something fucking right for a change. Stop kowtowing, and fucking do some good for once in your miserable life.
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Another Open Letter to Malcolm, that will acheive nothing beyond the catharsis of screaming into the void:

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Dear Malcolm,


It must feel like shit, to be so fucking powerless and at the mercy of the vested interests in the party room.


How's about you grow a fucking spine and go out in a blaze of glory, using your position to do the right fucking thing for a change?


Sure, actually doing the right thing by the goddamned populace you supposedly govern for will destroy your current political career, as the amoral pricks you've allied with in your unholy bargain for power you don't actually have turn on you, but at least you'll garner the fucking respect of the punters, and maybe you'll sleep easier at night.


See, because this is what you've done: you made a deal with the fucking devil, to become the Prime Minister of Australia, the most powerful office in the land. But the terms of your deal mean that the only way for you to actually wield that power was as a puppet of that very devil you deal with. Which means you have less than no power, because you have no integrity and no self-determination.


Here's a thing to fucking ponder, whilst you're miserating over the invidious position you bargained yourself into: the vast majority of the ills that plague us, that in theory you're supposed to do something about, rest in a lack of self-determination.


The refugees tortured at your fucking behest on Manus were seeking self-determination, and you fucking ripped that from them. Our First Nations people subject to the inhumane Intervention in the Northern Territory: a dehumanisation by means of denying them self-determination. Every single uneducated, unemployed, unsupported citizen who falls through the cracks of our society: refused self-determination.


That powerlessness you feel? That's something to be fucking fought, tooth and goddamned nail, on behalf of yourself and all others. That is the moral imperative of governance, Malcolm. That's the very reason for your fucking existence, as a human and as an inhabitor of our highest elected office.


To refuse that moral burden, to simply succumb to the corruption that lies at the heart of power, is an act of abject fucking cowardice, and one I couldn't live with.
Sometimes, I wish there was a god, so some form of justice was assured. Alas, it isn't the case, so I can only appeal to your conscience, in the hope that it is less mythical.


Please, Malcolm. Do something fucking right for a change. Stop kowtowing, and fucking do some good for once in your miserable life.
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