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Old 9th January 2013, 02:17 PM
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Default Catholic debt from 655 years ago nullified.

http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/culture/...l?cid=34676472

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The cantonal court of Glarus in eastern Switzerland has released a farmer from the obligation, dating back 655 years, to finance an “eternal lamp” in the Roman Catholic church in Näfels village. The debt stemmed from a 14th century murder.
In 1357 a certain Konrad Müller was accused of killing a man named Heinrich Stucki, as recorded in contemporary documents. To save his soul and to avoid vengeance from the family of his victim, he offered to maintain an eternal lamp in the church of Mollis “for eternity”.

Under the agreement, failure to provide oil for the lamp meant the man would forfeit his land to the church, the Swiss News Agency reported.

During the Reformation the eternal lamp was transferred to the church of St Hilarius in Näfels and over the centuries that followed, landowners honoured the commitment, which amounted to SFr70 per year to pay for the nut oil – and later the candles – that lit the lamp.

Generations of landowners accepted the burden – but not the current owner, who bought the land from his mother in 2009 and refused to pay for the candles.

The parish of Näfels then moved to enter this obligation into the land register of the commune, yet the farmer still refused to comply. The church took legal action against the man but in its judgment of December 20th, made public on Monday, the cantonal court found in favour of the farmer, awarding costs against the parish.

It was never about the money, the lawyer for the parish was quoted as saying in the NZZ Online newspaper, rather “a simple clearing up of the land registry”.

The court ruled that the customary law, valid at the time of the murder, was null and void at least since the reform of the mortgage system which took place in the middle of the 19th century. Furthermore there was no particular link any more between the land and the eternal lamp.
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Was this a land grab, (money) by the church?

I really do not buy the excuse by the lawyer.
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Old 9th January 2013, 04:51 PM
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Under the agreement, failure to provide oil for the lamp meant the man would forfeit his land to the church
Typical Catholic Church behaviour. At about the same time (and for the next several centuries) landowners would be accused of witchcraft - and if found guilty their land was confiscated to the church.
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Old 9th January 2013, 08:18 PM
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It was never about the money, the lawyer for the parish was quoted as saying
bullshit with the catholic church it is ALWAYS about the money!!!!
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Old 9th January 2013, 08:57 PM
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bullshit with the catholic church it is ALWAYS about the money!!!!
It's more fundamental than that, it's ALWAYS been about power, money and land are just there to facilitate that end.
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