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Old 2nd June 2010, 06:08 PM
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It's okay, the cleaners haven't gone home yet (that's us), but we'll be locking the door shortly so make sure you don't get locked in!
Insane asylums are fun to visit, at first you try helping them, then you get frustrated at their wild eyed inability to grasp simple concepts and far fetched conspiracy theories .. then you just start looking for the door when they start throwing their own poo around.
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Gee... I wanted to ask him a side question.

If he is so certain that all of his 'evidence' indicates that a 'creator - mono-theistic deity god' exists, how can he be sure that this god is his particular flavour of mono-theistic god?
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I am pretty sure this did get asked ... and ignored.
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Old 2nd June 2010, 06:47 PM
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You can add another few 0's to that, it doesn't matter. It happened. So what does the number have to do with anything? It's like a gambler who bets odds, for the 10th time thinking that the next role couldn't be wrong again, as the only possibility for that happening would be 1 in 1024 that you'd be wrong again.

Alas. The truth is, the possibility for each throw is still only 1/2.

Well, if you don't believe me, you should try betting on that principle.

Like wise, the odds that you mention, only applies, if we are refering to the creation of another world/universe/dimension, or whatever it is.
This is a bit of a stretch, but... this video clip can explain exactly what Tsid meant by adding more and more zeros to the 'equasion of god'.

Go to about 6:00 on the clip... Nick the bartender can shed so light on the motovations resulting in the ban of Tsid.

'Zeros' or 'Bells'... what's the difference.

HO! HO! NO!



Meow! (and a merry christmas!)

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etc

I am pretty sure this did get asked ... and ignored.
This clip might explain his basic line of argumentation.

So much for the 'melody of nature'...

Tsid and his toy piano dictating reality. What a hoot!



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Roll credits. Lights up.

Want to stop off for coffee on the way home? I know a nice little thread along the way, much nicer than one at the theatre...

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As an unembodied mind, God is a remarkably simple entity. As a non-physical entity, a mind is not composed of parts, and its salient properties, like self-consciousness, rationality, and volition, are essential to it. In contrast to the contingent and variegated universe with all its inexplicable quantities and constants, a divine mind is startlingly simple. Certainly such a mind may have complex ideasóit may be thinking, for example, of the infinitesimal calculusó, but the mind itself is a remarkably simple entity. Dawkins has evidently confused a mind's ideas, which may, indeed, be complex, with a mind itself, which is an incredibly simple entity. Therefore, postulating a divine mind behind the universe most definitely does represent an advance in simplicity, for whatever that is worth.
I musn't have read this properly the first time, I don't know why, it jumps straight of the screen.
I thought the main argument from Tsid was from nothing comes nothing. This seems to be a case of, in Tsid's words,
nothing x nothing = the most perfect almighty entity!?
Minds are made by brains and are therefore physical.
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TSiD
He came, he saw, he pasted.
Alas, our time was wasted.

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TS502, he caused much ado,
His posting was done with much haste,
Reading it seemed,
Was too hard we gleaned,
He could just copy and paste.
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I was suprised that Tsid never used my dyslexia to prove that god exists.

A dog exists.
MOS is dyslexic.

Therefore; god exists.

!woeM

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There was a young man who said "God
Must find it exceedingly odd
To think that the tree
Should continue to be
When there's no one about in the quad."
"Dear Sir: Your astonishment's odd;
I am always about in the quad.
And that's why the tree
Will continue to be
Since observed by, Yours faithfully, God."

Ronald Knox reply to George Berkeley

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