The Many Problems I Have With My Principal [RANT WARNING]

[FSM]

Originally Posted by CrazyAtheistFeminist

The many things I wish I could tell my Principal to shove up his arse, but can;t for the sake of a good reccomendation for Uni

Unfortunately you only have two choices here, which of course you already know.
Play the FU card, or play the STFU card because you need something from this person (or you think you do).
It sucks being in that position, but that's where you find yourself sometimes in life.

BTW, why do you need a principles recommendation to get into Uni? I thought it was the marks alone? (but I don't know jack here...)

He then says he is sorry he has to bring it up, but is obliged to look after me legally. I say "I'm 16 it isn't illegal". He says it is still a safety issue.
What is the problem with this?

The problem is he's 21.
Most high schools do not have a 21yo student, let alone one that is dating a 16yo. And to make it worse (in the eyes of stupid adults), a 16yo girl instead of a 16yo boy.

Thirdly, if he HAD seen us and thought us to be "over-amourous", he would be appalled at the other couples around us, playing tonsil hockey and groping at times.

He doesn't care about them because they are not a 21yo guy and 16yo girl.
Yes, I know it's legally ok, and most sensible people don't care (maybe unless you are the parent!), but that would freak the shit out of other parents and hence any school principal.
Just one of many thing in life you'll find that are judgemental and not fair I'm afraid.
But don't worry, once you leave school, that's it, you are your own person, accountable to no one! Hang in there, it gets better!

Dave.

[CrazyAtheistFeminist]

Originally Posted by Crocodile

I wasn't there, so I won't vote or make too many comments among your situation. However, perhaps there is a concern that, a non-student is coming in. Because, as far as the school is concerned, a non-student is effectively foreign personnel who is unknown. I am no teacher, but it doesn't take a genius to work out that a 21yo non-student coming in to the school and having such a relationship appears a little more of a concern than two of those who are both in school and are (presumably) of similar age. (perhaps Annie would like to comment?)

Perhaps he may be the nicest fellow on the planet, but how can one expect the school to know that?

If foreign matter or foreign people appeared in my territory, certainly I'd be on my guard. Perhaps that is what is happening here. (I don't know... you tell me )

One thing I'd be keeping in mind is this: when you are in school, you are in their territory. Maybe not by choice, I know, but neverthless, in their territory, they are the boss. If you don't want them to worry about your relationship, just keep it private. Quite simple, really.

One thing I can agree with is your views on the chaplain. Time to make a formal complaint about it I reckon.


I would like to know, how you know what parents are concerned about and what they aren't concerned about. Have you spoken to all those parents? Quite possible there are parents who are concerned about this.

My younger sibling's mates parents. Their children tell my siblings. My siblings complain.

And nothing out of school is private in school. It may not sound like it but I do have a small friendship group that gossip as much as any teenagers would. The relationship would reach S anyway and it musn't be too bad because it took over 3 months to reach him anyway

And we have 2+ chaplains. The school will run how it runs even teachers have a hard time changing things.

Originally Posted by Crocodile

Ah, I thought he was visiting with permission; I know a few schools that allow visitors, and permission must be granted by staff.

Nope, I don't think we allow visitors aside from parents and department authorities. But if that were the case he would just have his visiting rights revoked rather than pulling us out of class.

Originally Posted by FSM

Unfortunately you only have two choices here, which of course you already know.
Play the FU card, or play the STFU card because you need something from this person (or you think you do).
It sucks being in that position, but that's where you find yourself sometimes in life.

BTW, why do you need a principles recommendation to get into Uni? I thought it was the marks alone? (but I don't know jack here...)



The problem is he's 21.
Most high schools do not have a 21yo student, let alone one that is dating a 16yo. And to make it worse (in the eyes of stupid adults), a 16yo girl instead of a 16yo boy.



He doesn't care about them because they are not a 21yo guy and 16yo girl.
Yes, I know it's legally ok, and most sensible people don't care (maybe unless you are the parent!), but that would freak the shit out of other parents and hence any school principal.
Just one of many thing in life you'll find that are judgemental and not fair I'm afraid.
But don't worry, once you leave school, that's it, you are your own person, accountable to no one! Hang in there, it gets better!

Dave.

I know I have to play the STFU card, hence why I'm saying it on here rather than to him.

I think groping between anybody makes the school look bad, because let's face it grabbing a girls tits is more than amourous. It's somewhat sexual. And sexual things have no place in high schools. Period.

The Principal's reccomentdation will help if I do't get the 94 ATAR I need. But I can get up to 14 bonus points from Monash so I only need mid-high 80s.

In regards to the TAFe thing, you CAN do TAFE for your HSC in NSW however our local TAFE is shit and does not offer it.
He can't leave town coz as you may have guessed he is still living with his mum, no Ps, no job. That MAY make him sound like a bit of a loser but he IS trying. He applies over and over for full-time work so as he can leave school as it's harder than he expected, and he definitely chose the wrong subjects (Art's a bitch).

Some people just take longer to reach "normal" milestones. I was almost one of them, so I definitely understand.

I know that I must obey the Principal, which to be honest, I was anyway.

They HAVE had older students before. The oldest to ever attend was 28 in year 11. And the Deputy is very proud of it.

I just wish they'd stop peddling the bullshit line "we're treating you like young adults who are responsible for themselves" when they only give us the pitfalls of said responsiblity, and none of the perks.

But K and I have carried on as usual and nothing more has been said, so that's always good.

The main perp of the rumours has left the school to dole bludge with no intention of working so I'm happy

It's just much better to say it here.

[rayne]

Some times it takes people more assisstance to get the things they want. Not everyone has the resources to get where they want to go.

[the_gelf]

Your principal is just doing his job. He doesn't have the time to investigate the veracity of information he hears. He will have sources that pass information on, so it is unfair to lay blame on him for not knowing the exact relationship details of one out his 400?500?600? Students.

If a similar situation occurs, you can acknowledge that he has been informed (of the accusation), but the reality is [insert story here]

Standing up for yourself can go a long ways past veiled sycophancy.