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Old 4th August 2012, 08:38 PM
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Default Can-Do Campbell strikes again

Shit Queensland, now he's dismantling breast, cervical and bowl cancer screening programs! http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/q...f908c8035cf038

Seriously, WTF is going on up there?
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Old 5th August 2012, 05:28 AM
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I really don't understand how the stupid people of my state (thanks mum and dad) could vote for this dodgy fucker. He's less than dodgy, he's slimey and has no interest in the state or its people. I won't be surprised if he does one term and then fucks of with his pension somewhere far far away. I also wouldn't be surprised if he's made dodgy deals to get into power and been bought out on the sly because of his position and authority. I'd call him a cunt but they're awesome.
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Massive majority plus the abolition of the senate in 1922 means no checks and balances for the train wreck that is the Qld gov
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Does anyone have a link to a list of actual cuts he has made (ie. job roles and departments)?

I'm interested to see what is true and how much is media/union hype. Can't find anything unbiased on google.


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Logic: The QLD Labor website should have a link to a paper outlining what has been cut on the front page of their site. I'm not certain it's a complete list but it's a start.
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I can't find any unbiased stuff on Google either, or on any of the main news channels on TV.

Channel 7s "Sunrise" said something akin to that the reason why BreastScreen Queensland was established was to fix the already broken system - but I couldn't find anything anywhere to back this up.

There still is a BreastScreen Australia - which will NOT be affected by this operation.

From BreastScreen QLD website, it appears they were formed during the hype / drive of BreastScreen Australia. From health.qld.gov.au/breastscreen:

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BreastScreen Queensland opened its doors in 1991 after Australian Health Ministers agreed there was a need for quality breast cancer screening services nationally.

This followed a two year evaluation of breast cancer screening in Australia which resulted in the Australian Institute of Health report "Breast Cancer Screening in Australia: Future Directions".

The report became the blueprint for the establishment of a National Program for the Early Detection of Breast Cancer, now known as BreastScreen Australia. Queensland Health, through an agreement with the Commonwealth Government, then established a free statewide breast cancer screening program now known as BreastScreen Queensland.
So at the moment all I can assume from what I've read is that it will involve the dismantling of the body that administrates the BreastScreen network, but it has already been stated that the actual free screening will remain.

The network management is now being put back to local hospital boards/hospitals.

It's so hard to find a straight article on these things.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-08-0...86?section=qld

seems to confirm the decentralisation move.
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Massive majority plus the abolition of the senate in 1922 means no checks and balances for the train wreck that is the Qld gov
Yes. Not Labor's finest hour!
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Still can't find anything relating to who/what front line services (staff) are being cut.

Although I did see that the government has now changed the definition of frontline to be someone who spends at least 75% of their time with customers/patients which should prove interesting.

I also understand that cutting administrative job roles can mean front line staff end up doing more administrative work, taking them away from their frontline tasks.

However, the Bligh government, as it turns out, seems to have gotten a tad divorced from reality in the last few years of power (as various things are now coming to light).

I therefore find it feasible that the QLD public service is overstaffed administratively, and that some, or maybe all of these cuts are necessary. Is it the case that there are 3 public servants doing the job that would take 1 private sector employee? Is it the case that there are public servants duplicating roles that external consultants are already doing? Is it the case that there are roles which exist purely for political reasons - committees etc?

I'm no can-do or LNP fan but sometimes tough decisions have to be made to make a government sustainable financially, particularly in tough economic times.

I have sympathy for those losing jobs, and I also understand job cuts have at least a temporary ripple effect on things such as welfare, however can the tax payer be expected to prop up an unsustainable level of government employment?



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First you need to establish that there is an unsustainable level of government employment and that government was not financially sustainable.

I'm sure there is an element of truth to the wailing and gnashing of teeth, there always is some degree of government waste, but Newman appears to have sold the public on the "it's a calamity, we'll all be rooned" line without presenting any actual evidence to that effect. Now he claims his actions are due to that fact.
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First you need to establish that there is an unsustainable level of government employment and that government was not financially sustainable.
I'm trying Loki! But, struggling to find any unbiased info. I am not sold on any conclusion at this point.

It does baffle me however that if Neumann is telling the truth, why not just lay all the cards on the table about finances and job cuts in an easy to understand way for the public. Or maybe that's what he thinks he's doing :s


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