Firearms, guns, rifles, projectile weapons

[wearestardust]

It's way short of a gun. It's technically not even a receiver, not even the entire casing for the receiver, just a part into which other parts (bolt or block - bolt in the case of this weapon, trigger mechanism, cocking mechanism) are installed to make the receiver. Add a barrel, stock and grips, and magazine and you're got a gun.

I understand that there are 3D printers that will work with sintered metal, but I don't think that would do the job for the bolt or barrel.

But that's now; who knows what technology might provide in the future. I think Mikejay's point is apposite; making guns illegal doesn't mean the same thing as taking them entirely out of circulation.

[MikeJay]

Originally Posted by wearestardust

It's way short of a gun. It's technically not even a receiver, not even the entire casing for the receiver, just a part into which other parts (bolt or block - bolt in the case of this weapon, trigger mechanism, cocking mechanism) are installed to make the receiver. Add a barrel, stock and grips, and magazine and you're got a gun.

I understand that there are 3D printers that will work with sintered metal, but I don't think that would do the job for the bolt or barrel.

But that's now; who knows what technology might provide in the future. I think Mikejay's point is apposite; making guns illegal doesn't mean the same thing as taking them entirely out of circulation.

The thing with the 3D printed part is that that is the part of a gun that usually has the serial number on it. I am of the understanding that you are able to buy / import most if not all the other parts without needing a license or method of registration even here in Australia.

[wearestardust]

Originally Posted by MikeJay

The thing with the 3D printed part...

Ah. <lightbulb> <realisation dawns>

[Strato]

Well I see I'm still a bit wet behind the ears to assume that Obama would see the 2nd Amendment a fundamental drawback to freedom and security. John Howard relates his and Romney's quick defense of it, in the contemporary context. But not to would be political suicide, of course.

Looks like our Yank friend shot through, bolted. Couldn't handle the Australian take on his land's gun culture?

You can't win them all.

Seems as soon as men develop a new weapon, it has to be deployed. The male of the species has a fascination with new weaponry, a love of combat. I think they need to get into guitars.

Pacifism is unsupportable, naive.


So glad I live here, anyway.

[slim]

Another day, another shooting:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/06/us...n.html?_r=1&hp

OAK CREEK, Wis. — In what the police called an act of domestic terrorism, a gunman opened fire in a Sikh temple here on Sunday, killing at least six worshipers and injuring three others before being shot and killed in the parking lot.
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The rampage ended in a shootout with the police. The gunman ambushed one of the first officers who arrived at the temple, shooting him several times, before another officer killed him, the authorities said Sunday afternoon. The officer remained in critical condition at a nearby hospital, along with the other two shooting victims.

The police did not release any details about the gunman or a possible motive for the shooting.

John Edwards, the police chief in Oak Creek, said at a news conference that the F.B.I. would lead the investigation because the shootings were being treated as an act of domestic terrorism.

The rampage began about 10:30 a.m. at the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin in Oak Creek, just south of Milwaukee, officials said. The sprawling 17,000 square-foot temple was crowded with men, women and children taking part in Sunday services when the gunman opened fire.

Witnesses described a scene of chaos and carnage. Some women who were cooking food for a later service hid together in closets, while others fled. Men grabbed children, finding cover wherever they could.

Jatindev Mangat, whose uncle, Satwant Kaleka, is the temple president, said he tried to call his uncle as soon as he heard about the shooting. It was not his uncle who answered the phone, but the head priest of the temple.

“He was crying, everyone was screaming,” Mr. Mangat said. The gunman was still stalking the hallways and the priest could hear shots nearby, Mr. Mangat said. The priest said he was hiding in a bathroom with four other people, including two children.

By early afternoon, tactical officers had swept the building and determined that there were no other gunmen.

At a news conference, Mr. Edwards, the police chief, described a dramatic scene when officers arrived soon after the first 911 call. The gunman ambushed the first officer who arrived, Mr. Edwards said, severely wounding him. At that point, another police exchanged fire with the gunman, bringing him down.

Bradley Wentlandt, the chief of police in nearby Greenfield, told journalists that the wounded officer was a 20-year veteran whose heroism probably saved many lives.

“That officer was shot multiple times,” Mr. Wentlandt said.

He said four bodies were found inside the temple and three were outside, including that of the gunman.

Three men suffering from gunshot wounds were admitted to Froedtert Hospital, the Milwaukee region’s main trauma center, said Nalissa Wienke, a spokeswoman for the hospital. One victim was shot in the head and extremities and another in the abdomen. The third was described as having neck injuries.

There were initially conflicting reports about whether there was more than one gunman and whether hostages had been taken inside the temple. Local news agencies, citing text messages from people inside reported accounts that two or more gunmen could have been involved, but the authorities said a single gunman was believed responsible.

“The best information is that there was only one gunman,” Mr. Edwards said a news conference.

The Sikh community around the country has seen an increase in bias attacks since Sept. 11, 2001, with its members often confused for Muslims. The Sikh religion does not have its roots in the Middle East but in Punjab, on the Indian subcontinent. Many faithful grow their beards long and, in keeping with their faith, wear turbans.

In April, Representative Joseph Crowley, Democrat of New York and co-chair of the Congressional Caucus on Indian and Indian Americans, sent a letter to Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. urging that data be collected on hate crimes committed against Sikh-Americans.

In the last year alone, Mr. Crowley said in the letter, two Sikh men in Sacramento were killed, a Sikh temple in Michigan was vandalized and a Sikh man was beaten in New York.

[wearestardust]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/bre...-1226451190696

THE government insists budget constraints haven't forced reserve soldiers to yell out "bang bang" in place of firing blank ammunition in training.

That's the way we used to do it in my day. Blank ammunition was a very rare commodity.

[Xeno]

Originally Posted by wearestardust

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/bre...-1226451190696



That's the way we used to do it in my day. Blank ammunition was a very rare commodity.

We yelled "bang, got you"
"No you didn't"
"Yer I did so"
or was that when I was younger? Much the same, really, in the cut-lunch commandos,.

[robertkd]

Originally Posted by wearestardust

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/bre...-1226451190696



That's the way we used to do it in my day. Blank ammunition was a very rare commodity.

Plus one for that on the odd training exercise. At the time I could help but think to myself WTF if we actually had to go to war.

[wolty]

At least you lot had pretend bullets. I had to use pretend arrows.

[Xeno]

Originally Posted by wolty

At least you lot had pretend bullets. I had to use pretend arrows.

Are they easier to throw?