My Courageous Wife

[BrendanB]

Hi

I wish you and your wife well in this journey. This is something I have found very troubling about religion. There is a lot of references in the New Testament that is very anti-family. In one passage he rejects his mother and other members of his family when they come to one of his sermons.

I find the whole idea of walking away from my family and going out on the road with a bunch of other dudes relying entirely on the kindness of others as a profoundly selfish thing to do. Humanity would have ground years ago if we actually did that rather than stay home, look after our families and work.

[simonecuttlefish]

from http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...53&version=NLT

Luke 12:49-53New Living Translation (NLT)

Jesus Causes Division

49 “I have come to set the world on fire, and I wish it were already burning! 50 I have a terrible baptism of suffering ahead of me, and I am under a heavy burden until it is accomplished. 51 Do you think I have come to bring peace to the earth? No, I have come to divide people against each other! 52 From now on families will be split apart, three in favor of me, and two against—or two in favor and three against.
53 ‘Father will be divided against son
and son against father;
mother against daughter
and daughter against mother;
and mother-in-law against daughter-in-law
and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law.’”



Well praise the lord in his infinite wisdom 'eh. I hope strength and wisdom can be gained from the previous passage. The strength to be better than god (which as we can see from the above means having any degree of acceptance, grace and decency), and the wisdom to protect ones family from the diseases of mind that religion seek to infect others with, so as to trap them in a cycle of placebo help for the misery it inflicts. It saddens me to hear your story. I hope things calm down with time.

[Riddick]

Orbiting Teapot, it must be very hard on you are your wife, it would of been heart breaking for your wife to hear that from her mother and to be stabbed ion the back by her sister, but i'm sure your wife will feel a sense of relief to finally come out. Hopefully her sister and mother wake up before it's too late.

All the best.

Scott.

[Serpion5]

Well that bites. I'm sorry to hear you have to endure this mate. A similar division struck my family almost a decade ago between my mother and one of my aunts. It festered for a while but eventually they managed to get each other back on speaking terms.

So have hope!

[Varaker]

Makes it harder to not hate religion after hearing these stories, this definitely isnt the first ive heard.
So dissapointing how christians go believing atheists are anti christ when in fact it is us that do not believe in satan and have absolutely no connection to a satan whilst they are fixated on him.

My mother has disowned me a few times now and everytime i leave she cries and wonders why i dont talk to anymore and denying she has said anything, religion really is a decadence but cant become ignorant myself otherwise then i am my enemy

I hope something will change in the religious atmosphere i am sure it will overtime the inevitable truth must become clear someday

[Annie]

Originally Posted by Varaker

My mother has disowned me a few times now and everytime i leave she cries and wonders why i dont talk to anymore and denying she has said anything, religion really is a decadence but cant become ignorant myself otherwise then i am my enemy

This is a sad biproduct of the characteristics of any religion V. It is more a reflection of what religion does to people than the people who are reacting. She may grow out of her current beliefs and values. Always leave the door open to her. For now though, look after yourself and be true to yourself.

[Varaker]

dont worry about me im fine, its just sad how people take each other for granted you dont live forever you would think you wouldnt want to take anything granted
I find it hard to believe that believers do believe they will live forever or they wouldnt be afraid of dying. And even if you werent still why would you take it for granted you do KNOW that you are live you KNOW this is a real world why would you throw it away just for the chance of another.
In this world if something is wrong you can fix it

[Annie]

Yes, everyone can be instrumental in fixing things. I really admire your sentiments too and I wish you well.

[Deanus-Maximus]

OT, you and your missus have my thoughts. I've also had a similar falling out with my mother - religion was the basis of it, so I know exactly what you both are going through.
The only thing I can add is from my own experience - It will get better. I personally don't miss the relationships that I left behind because they were in all facets toxic. Worth noting also that there were a few years of pent up bad blood in there which did make it harder to move on, but a few years down the track I hardly think about it at all.

Best of luck to you & your wife working through, what I know is a difficult time.

Hi OT, I don't know if this will help but I found it quite illuminating when I read it:

"The

imaginary lights of mythological

tradition must be put out, that the eye may distinguish

the false from the true in the twilight of the

Biblical origins of our religion. The ancient structures

of belief, which the childish fancy of men had

constructed of truth and poetry, Wahrheit und

Dichtung, must be taken down and cleared away, in

order that a new erection of more durable materials

may be raised."

THE

LIFE OF JESUS CRITICALLY EXAMINED
BY

DR. DAVID FRIEDRICH STRAUSS

FOURTH EDITION, 1902.