Please present a compelling explanation why naturalism is true

[Logic please]

Originally Posted by jireh

So you have irrestricted faith in chance. wow....amazing. would you bet money on the probability shown there ? its said that a probability less than one to 10^50 will probably never happen.....

Is that your only answer? That your god's a bookmaker, a punter who plays the odds?

Please don't waste time strawmanning my posts. If you don't address what is actually posted, accurately, this discussion has no future, methinks.

I requested evidence, not imaginings. Got any?

[Darwinsbulldog]

Originally Posted by jireh

Atheists repeat like a mantra that there is no evidence for Gods existence. If there were absolutely nothing existing, than you have a go. As long creation exists, it demands for a explanation, and creationism os one of the possible explanations. The fact the atheists do not agree with creationism, does not mean, there is no evidence to make such a position plausible.

What makes you think the universe owes you an explanation?

[Darwinsbulldog]

Originally Posted by jireh

Strong atheist believe, most probably there is no God.

A probability, by definition, is not certainty, and therefore not a faith position!!
If I say there is an 80% chance of rain of Wednesday, how is that a faith position???

[Xeno]

Originally Posted by jireh

A Faith Statement might be as follows:
I have complete, non-negotiable FAITH in the following tenets:
· Faith that the supreme intelligence in the universe is me, embodied in my mind.
· Faith that the appearances of design are false.
· Faith that the first life self-assembled from warm chemicals in goo.
· Faith that the universe is a self-induced, random occurrence.
· Faith that a “multiverse” that we can’t see is a rationale for a random universe producing life (Anthropic principle is false).
· Faith that my mind is an assembly of random mutations, with no actual purpose beyond survival of the fittest. (A Meat Machine). Even so, it is the supreme intelligence in the universe.
· Faith that the brain and the mind are one thing, inseparable.
· Faith that there is no intelligence in DNA.
· Faith that if I can’t sense it, it does not exist. (No metaphysical existence).
· Faith that empiricism is the one and only true path to all-encompassing Truth and Enlightenment.
· Faith in Evolution, which is unquestionable; it is non-negotiable truth. See “Heresy”, below.
· Faith that, because Evolution is non-negotiable truth, life has no meaning.
· Faith that after death there are only worms.

Jireh has a lot of faith in straw men.


Meanwhile Jireh, do you have an answer to this:

Originally Posted by Xeno

Please provide us with a detailed explanation of how your god created morality, or life, or the universe, step by step. Thanks..

other than this?

Originally Posted by Jireh

I believe in the God of the bible. The bible does not go into details, so i cannot provide you details either. Neither do i think that is a relevant question. Relevant is just to know, that the God of the bible created everything.

If that is your position, then I agree that you see nothing beyond faith in whatever takes your fancy, and have nothing to contribute to the questions you purport to raise.

[Bolero]

Originally Posted by jireh

Atheists repeat like a mantra that there is no evidence for Gods existence. If there were absolutely nothing existing, than you have a go. As long creation exists, it demands for a explanation, and creationism os one of the possible explanations. The fact the atheists do not agree with creationism, does not mean, there is no evidence to make such a position plausible.

Well, I'd say the fact that there is no evidence to make such a position plausible is what means there is no evidence to make such a position plausible.

[Sir Patrick Crocodile]

There is no evidence that I do not have a multicolored amphibious talking giraffe from the planet Klingon here with me now. Therefore, one has to conclude that there is one with me now, but unfortunately the silly amulticolouredamphibiousgiraffists believe otherwise.

[Darwinsbulldog]

Originally Posted by Crocodile

There is no evidence that I do not have a multicolored amphibious talking giraffe from the planet Klingon here with me now. Therefore, one has to conclude that there is one with me now, but unfortunately the silly amulticolouredamphibiousgiraffists believe otherwise.

Nessie lives!

[Sir Patrick Crocodile]

Oh I met Nessie before. Lovely fella she is too.
By the way, did you know she has a crush on the abominable snowman? She wanted me to mention it on the forums.

[Darwinsbulldog]

Originally Posted by Crocodile

Oh I met Nessie before. Lovely fella she is too.
By the way, did you know she has a crush on the abominable snowman? She wanted me to mention it on the forums.

I thought, no, I have faith, she is dating Elvis!

[Jaar-Gilon]

please answer : do you believe absolutely nothing has the capability to produce something ? just rely only onces at your own thought, please.

Please explain to me what this absolutely nothing is and where I could find it?