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Old 20th February 2012, 10:05 PM
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Default Re: Jeebus and his stories: hypothesis

You might be interested to read Lord Raglan's hero scale here http://http://tam-lin.org/abby/raglan.html

  1. The hero's mother is a royal virgin
  2. His father is a king and
  3. often a near relative of the mother, but
  4. the circumstances of his conception are unusual, and
  5. he is also reputed to be the son of a god
  6. at birth an attempt is made, usually by his father or maternal grandfather, to kill him, but
  7. He is spirited away, and
  8. Reared by foster-parents in a far country
  9. We are told nothing of his childhood, but
  10. On reaching manhood he returns or goes to his future kingdom.
  11. After a victory over the king and or giant, dragon, or wild beast
  12. He marries a princess, often the daughter of his predecessor and
  13. becomes king
  14. For a time he reigns uneventfully and
  15. Prescribes laws but
  16. later loses favor with the gods and or his people and
  17. Is driven from from the throne and the city after which
  18. He meets with a mysterious death
  19. often at the top of a hill.
  20. his children, if any, do not succeed him.
  21. his body is not buried, but nevertheless
  22. he has one or more holy sepulchres.


It outlines the christian myth quite nicely. How does your favourite hero score??
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Old 21st February 2012, 12:45 AM
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Default Re: Jeebus and his stories: hypothesis

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How does your favourite hero score??
This pointed at me?
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Old 21st February 2012, 01:15 AM
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Default Re: Jeebus and his stories: hypothesis

Nope....

Mine scored less than jeebus though, just in case you needed to know.
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Hi all

I think Xeno hit the nail on the head ( oops! I just cracked an unintentional crucifixion joke ) - contemporary writers of the period make no mention of Jesus or his miracles - a bit strange since, if even one of them were true, it would be a thousand times more remarkable than the entire career of Alexander or Caesar (neither of whom claimed to re-animate dead people or cure leprosy), yet no-one at the time considered it worthy of recording?

Since most of the Gospels were written in the second century AD, they were clearly not written by people who actually knew Jesus personally (supposing he even existed). Even the oldest Gospel, attributed to Mark, dates to about 70-90 AD. Considering average life expectancy in classical antiquity was considerably less than in modern developed countries, even the author of the oldest gospel is unlikely to be relating anything other than second or third hand rumours and myths.

If the same standards were applied to the New Testament as are normally applied by historians when assessing the reliability of other allegedly historical texts, it would be regarded as pretty much worthless as a "testament" to anything that really happened.

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Old 28th February 2012, 10:26 PM
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Comparing the tales of Jesus to the preceding tale of Mithras, it looks like they just cut+paste, then added some stuff in to make it more compelling, a few chinese whispers here and there and bingo! A way to make money.

hebrew+fabrication->convert to latin + fabrication->convert to pre-english+fabrication->15th century english+fabrication->modern english+fabrication=undeniable fact!!!!
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