
3rd January 2012, 10:36 PM
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Do scientists have faith? (from The Drum)
Article available at The Drum (abc.net.au). It discusses the common claim that
Although there are some moments of straw, like:
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Originally Posted by Argument v person, anyone? Anyone?
For example, critics often call the religious 'stupid': as if intelligence were the only difference between theists and atheists.
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...it finally gets to making the following points:
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Originally Posted by The Drum
While some scientists might indeed be religious in outlook, science as a whole cannot be conflated with faith. Not because they do not make bad suppositions - they clearly do. It is because of their moral relationship to supposition. Faith, as I have previously argued on The Drum, is the euphemism given to needful metaphysical belief without good evidence. It is not provisional or contingent, as are scientific hypotheses - it will not be revised or discarded with new evidence. It is belief in an un-testable, often unknowable something, and pride in this belief.
In other words, faith is not simply assumption without evidence, but proud assumption in spite of it: one knows one believes without proof, and one is glad of it. While some religious minds are more comfortable with doubt, it remains a hallmark of the Judaeo-Christian religions that faith goes hand-in-hand with a certain pleased conviction: if not in one's own salvation, then certainly in the existence of a transcendent deity.
This is not generally true of science. Scientists may become accustomed to their assumptions - resting on their cosmological laurels, so to speak. Hence Davies' bold criticism. But working scientists usually have good reasons for believing that 'the way things are' is a necessary part of reality: it works. The success of science in predicting and controlling the world gives many scientists rightful confidence in the truth of their belief. This might not be accurate, but it is a reasonable assumption. And given good evidence that the cosmos might be otherwise, most scientists may respond with bias, haste or anger, but not with happy denial of evidence in general.
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The comments (294) are also the usual interesting grab-bag.
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Atheists are of indeterminate morals and ethics, apparently... according to some self-appointed "experts"
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