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Old 20th June 2011, 02:51 PM
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Troll is trolling. I'm getting pissed off now!
I am not a troll, don't go saying that, I have stated very clearly that I am christian, and am representing my beliefs as I truly believe them.
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Old 20th June 2011, 02:52 PM
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Maybe we can keep as a sort of fish in a barrel for the newbies.

I am sure there are some redeeming qualities in there, we just need to coax them out somehow. It would seem logic won't work though.
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One more time, with feeling.

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Good. What the fuck is the 'soul', and what makes you think it exists?
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Old 20th June 2011, 02:54 PM
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Just give me some time to answer all your questions please.
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Old 20th June 2011, 02:55 PM
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No, from my knowledge of the Inquisition it was a big advancement from trial by ordeal.
Auto de fe is not a big advance in any legal process and it resulted in thousands of people being burnt to death for a supernatural idea with no supporting evidence. Doesn't sound like an advance in anything but human rights abuses. Discounting deaths and torture in the name of your religion as unimportant is pretty horrible and would deserve at least one swear word, even if you hadn't called atheists names already.
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Old 20th June 2011, 03:04 PM
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troll.
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Old 20th June 2011, 03:06 PM
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Ok, I will pause for you Caliope. Everyone let him/her/it reply.
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Back to the beginning:

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"the innermost aspect of humans, that which is of greatest value in them, that by which they are most especially in God's image" Taken from the wiki, as the catholic definition of the soul.

And "spirituality" matters which pertain to said definition of the soul.
That's a definition that is entirely meaningless. It's just a bunch of pointless words strung together and conveys not one whit or skerrick of any substance. "Innermost aspect"? "Of greatest value in them"? The stuff I evacuated from my bowel this morning had more intellectual value.
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Ok, I will pause for you Caliope. Everyone let the troll reply.
There. fixed that for ya.
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Old 20th June 2011, 03:12 PM
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One more time, with feeling.
Vocal prayer, Meditive prayer is an activity that we do and we control, but contemplative prayer is a Divine activity that God does in us.

Vocal and mediative prayer leads us and disposes us to contemplative prayer which happens in the soul or heart of us.

When we get out of the constant barrage of noise, and we truly get time to meditate and be still, and all the while with the disposition of wanting a relationship with God. Then God reveals Himself.

See God is the perfect gentleman, He reveals Himself to the soul that disposes himself to Him, not to those that are hostile to him.

If a man is proud, God will be invisible to Him. It's not so much that God isn't there it's just that the person is not disposed to seeing Him.

The soul is that faculty by which you have a relationship with God.

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"The kingdom of God is within you" That place where God can reside in you.

I can elaborate but this is a start.
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