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[Veritas]

So I'd like to start off by saying I'm a Roman Catholic who has a question concerning Atheism.

Why is Atheism so "reasonable" compared to Catholicism?

Atheists always seem to pride themselves on this and Im basically asking you to go through my religion and tell me why it's "unreasonable".

Debate is welcome,but please avoid malice and vehemency.

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[Veritas]

What do you guys think of them? (catholic here,by the way) I'd like to know the Atheist refute to them.

[ABridgeTooFar]

Originally Posted by Veritas

Why is Atheism so "reasonable" compared to Catholicism?

Hi and welcome.

Religion is based on unsubstantiated claims (ie: All those concerning the supernatural).

Atheism is the lack of belief in a Deity/Gods. The only claim being made (by some) is that there is no good reason or evidence to believe in a Deity. Unless substantial evidence can be provided to prove the existence of any God, this stance is reasonable and logical. Compared to the theist stance of making illogical claims about magic.

[Stubby]

Hi Veritas.

In what sense are you using reasonable and unreasonable?

Also, when you say:

Atheists always seem to pride themselves on this...

have you got some examples?

[Veritas]

@abridgetofar: I understand your claim in a sense,however, i'd like to ask you this:

How likely is it that the universe has an infinite regressing set of causes? Basically,what made the universe, if not God? The big bang? What caused that? At one point there must have been an unmoved mover,being God.

[davo]

The concepts of the properties of a god are illogical (eg: omni-max paradox)

I have yet to hear a reasonable argument as to how these paradox are resolved.

Atheism on the other hand, makes no claims, which is a reasonable position given that omni-max is logically impossible. Holding a belief despite it being logically impossible is unreasonable you would think?

[Veritas]

@stubby: in the sense an atheist uses it when such claims are made.

And examples? Personal experience really, I'm not saying it as an absolute, just something I've noticed.

[Veritas]

@davo: I'm unfamiliar with the omni-max arguement; could you explain?

[Goldenmane]

Originally Posted by Veritas

So I'd like to start off by saying I'm a Roman Catholic who has a question concerning Atheism.

Hi, welcome to the forum.

Why is Atheism so "reasonable" compared to Catholicism?

How do you mean?

Atheism is the product of reason, I suppose is the best answer for you. Atheism is simply a negative response to one imposed question: belief in deities. The existence of deities, or one deity, is a notion which is suggested (or insisted upon) without any evidence worth the label to back it up. It is a meaningless assertion, and as such can be dismissed out of hand.

Until, that is, someone comes up with some fucking evidence.

Atheists always seem to pride themselves on this and Im basically asking you to go through my religion and tell me why it's "unreasonable".

Well, aside from all the magical claims about wafers turning into god-flesh, wine into blood, the need to ingest such horrendous items in order to be cleansed of (the ridiculous notion of) sin, the complete lack of evidence for any of the central tenets (omni-god, blood sacrifice, eternal suffering/joy), and the utter lack of anything that could be considered conducive to the development of mature morality or personality, I guess it could be considered entirely 'reasonable'.

Or perhaps risible. I get confused sometimes, when I haven't had my morning coffee.

Debate is welcome,but please avoid malice and vehemency.

Sorry, mate. You don't get to dictate the terms of discussion here. They're covered by the FUA and policed by the mods.