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Old 29th May 2012, 06:37 PM
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A film by Vic Losick, "In God We Teach" tells the story of a high school student who secretly recorded his history teacher in class, and accused him of proselytizing for Jesus. The teacher, in danger of losing his job strenuously denied it. The specifics of the controversy lead directly to the church & state arguments that are in the news this election year. With Stephen Colbert, Alan Dershowitz, Neil deGrasse Tyson and others. Please feel free to stream, download, share, and embed the film for non-commercial use.

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Thanks Dandare, nice film. Very brave assertive teenager.
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Thanks Dandare, nice film. Very brave assertive teenager.
Yes, amazing. Also amazing that a student has to go to these lengths to reveal this. You can be sure its happening here in Oz but the schools have more ability to keep it out of the light.
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Quite frankly it is disgusting. Making the teen, Mathew, look like the bad guy when he is following the law and making sure that what is suppost to be enforced IS enforced.

Look at that attitude from the teacher and his supporters... "He doesn't even stand for the flag." Well he doesn't fucking have to! I wouldn't salute our own flag.

Oy... Its like Jessica Ahlquist's case all over again. And I will say, without a doubt, this isn't the first nor last time this shit will continue to happen.

What sickens me the most is that they are sending death threats to them.
"We want everyone to love and care for each other and pray to jeebus... AND IF YOU DO ANYTHING WE DON'T LIKE, WE'LL KILL YOU!"
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You can be sure its happening here in Oz but the schools have more ability to keep it out of the light.
They don't need to: Australia does NOT have the same constitutional separation of church and state as the US.

Article quoted below is from 'Australian Humanist.'

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In analysing what section 116 meant two judges referred directly to the question of church and state. Justice Sir Ronald Wilson said:
The fact is that s.116 is a denial of legislative power to the Commonwealth and no more … The provision therefore cannot answer the description of a law which guarantees within Australia the separation of church and state.
Justice Sir Ninian Stephen said s.116:
... cannot readily be viewed as a repository of some broad statement of principle concerning the separation of church and state, from which may be distilled the detailed consequences of such separation.
That is pretty unequivocal. The day after the case, none of the newspapers reporting the case published what the judges had said. Also, in many histories of Australia, these words, and the subject of church and state, do not appear. Textbooks on politics in Australia do not discuss it. We have an Australian Republican Movement that is arguing for a republic with no mention of church and state on their website. This is despite the fact that separation of church and state is the foundation stone of two of the leading republics in the world: the American and the French.
http://www.hsnsw.asn.au/MaxWallace.html
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