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    Default Re: Legal question: The Constitution and ADF chaplains

    I am tempted to respond with:

    Margaret,

    As the Humanist Chaplain at Canberra Hospital I tend to the pastoral care needs of people who identify as:
    - humanist
    - atheist
    - agnostic
    - heretic
    - unbeliever
    - rationalist
    - seeker
    - materialist
    - freethinker
    - heathen
    - non-theist
    - apostate
    - pagan
    - skeptic
    - Pastafarian
    - irreligionist
    - atheist Buddhist
    - scientific skeptic
    - spiritual but not religious, or
    - otherwise identify as having no religion.

    The latest census data states that this group is now the largest "religious" group in Australia at 30.1%.

    Approximately 71% of patients attending the Canberra Hospital self-identify as not having a religion.

    Can you assure me that there are not a single member of the ADF that fit into one or more of these categories?

    Yours sincerely

    Mr X
    Humanist Chaplain
    The Canberra Hospital
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    Default Re: Legal question: The Constitution and ADF chaplains

    Interesting extract from this publication:

    “Guide to Religion and Belief in the Australian Defence Force

    PDF - https://content.defencejobs.gov.au/p...in_the_ADF.pdf

    PART ONE: LEGISLATION AND POLICY
    Commonwealth and State legislation provide the legal foundation for the free exercise of religion and belief in the community, including employment opportunities. All personnel are reminded that whilst we have Defence policy which must be complied with, nothing in Defence policy can authorise the breaching of Australian law.

    ADF members are recruited from the Australian community, subject to specific exemptions related to citizenship, age and gender, health and fitness, and behaviour and appearance. Defence policies are in place to ensure that all members of the ADF are treated equitably throughout their period of service. Defence policies require compliance as a minimum to ensure
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    Default Re: Legal question: The Constitution and ADF chaplains

    "no member of the ADF has identified themselves with the Humanists in their personal information"


    Is there an option for them to do so?
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    Default Re: Legal question: The Constitution and ADF chaplains

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    "no member of the ADF has identified themselves with the Humanists in their personal information"


    Is there an option for them to do so?
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    Default Re: Legal question: The Constitution and ADF chaplains

    Reply sent:

    Margaret,

    As the Humanist Chaplain at Canberra Hospital I tend to the pastoral care needs of people who identify as:
    - humanist
    - atheist
    - agnostic
    - heretic
    - unbeliever
    - rationalist
    - seeker
    - materialist
    - freethinker
    - heathen
    - non-theist
    - apostate
    - pagan
    - wiccan
    - skeptic
    - Pastafarian
    - irreligionist
    - atheist Buddhist
    - scientific skeptic
    - spiritual but not religious, or
    - otherwise identify as having no religion.

    The latest census data states that this group is now the largest "religious" group in Australia at 30.1%.

    Approximately 71% of patients attending the Canberra Hospital self-identify as not having a religion.

    Can you assure me that there are no members of the ADF that fit into one or more of these categories?

    Additionally is there the ability for ADF members to identify themselves in the above manner?

    What are the current categories from which members can choose?

    Yours sincerely

    Dr Justin X
    Humanist Chaplain
    The Canberra Hospital
    EDIT: note some changes made.

    Thank you for your feedback.
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    Default Re: Legal question: The Constitution and ADF chaplains

    I guess the next step is an FOI request for their data on who ADF members religiously identify.
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    USA Air Force Chaplain: Christian Soldiers Who Tolerate Other Faiths “Serve Satan”

    Christian service members who openly profess and support the rights of Muslims, Buddhists, and all other anti-Christian worldviews to practice their religions — because the language in the Constitution permits — are grossly in error, and deceived.


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    Default Re: Legal question: The Constitution and ADF chaplains

    Still no reply to my email.

    Will have to resend.
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    Still no reply to my email.

    Will have to resend.


    Dear ###,

    I have not yet received a reply to my email dated ### (copy attached).

    I look forward to receiving your reply in due course.

    Yours, etc.




    Dear ###,

    I have not yet received a reply to my email dated ### (copy attached, nor to my email dated ### (copy also attached).

    I look forward to receiving your reply as a matter of priority.

    Yours, etc.




    Dear ###,

    I refer to my emails dates ###, ### and ### (copies attached).

    It remains the case that I still have not had the curtesy of a reply.

    Please respond without any further delay.

    Yours, etc.
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