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    Quote Strato said View Post
    Darwinsgift comes across as mistrustful of barristers.

    Of course there are are barristers with integrity. We have one among our AFA colleagues.
    Yes, I'm aware of that member, we've spoken via PM and he's a gent. Gumbel seems to be either very naive, or he is aware of the contrary arguments and prefers to keep them to himself rather than share them to his flock.

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    It is disinformation pure and simple.
    Wars begin in the minds of men.
    The UNESCO motto, in Enlightenment Now, the Case for Reason, Science, Humanism and Progress, Steven Pinker, 2018.

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    Quote Strato said View Post
    It is disinformation pure and simple.
    yes its straight out lying.
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    yes its straight out lying.
    Would you consider it brainwashing Wadaye?

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    Quote SEG said View Post
    Quote wadaye said View Post
    yes its straight out lying.
    Would you consider it brainwashing Wadaye?
    Dictionary, he say:
    brainwashˈbreɪnwɒʃ/verb
    gerund or present participle: brainwashing
    pressurize (someone) into adopting radically different beliefs by using systematic and often forcible means.
    How would one persuasively-presented untruth constitute brainwashing?

    It seems to be getting a little emotive here.

    Alpha's not quite brainwashing either. Try a "residential intensive" for a religion or other cult, and the difference will be clear.
    Last edited by The Irreverent Mr Black; 23rd May 2017 at 08:53 AM. Reason: there is no "t" in "brainwashing"
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    Dictionary, he say: How would one persuasively-presented untruth constitute brainwashing?

    It seems to be getting a little emotive here.

    Alpha's not quite brainwashing either. Try a "residential intensive" for a religion or other cult, and the difference will be clear.
    I don't know whether it is quite so clear Mr B. Of course I meant the whole course, not just the one instance. It seems that Google thinks it's brainwashing, just Google "Religious mind control". Most of these characteristics seem a good fit: http://www.phinnweb.org/neuro/brainwash/, especially the "love bombing" aspect of this type of indoctrination.

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    Quote SEG said View Post
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    Dictionary, he say: How would one persuasively-presented untruth constitute brainwashing?

    It seems to be getting a little emotive here.

    Alpha's not quite brainwashing either. Try a "residential intensive" for a religion or other cult, and the difference will be clear.
    I don't know whether it is quite so clear Mr B. Of course I meant the whole course, not just the one instance. It seems that Google thinks it's brainwashing, just Google "Religious mind control". Most of these characteristics seem a good fit: http://www.phinnweb.org/neuro/brainwash/, especially the "love bombing" aspect of this type of indoctrination.
    Hence "not quite".

    Very broadly speaking, any evangelism is attempted mind control.

    But "adopting radically different beliefs" - meh.
    And "using systematic and often forcible means" - also pretty meh.

    Like making a playground game of tag out to be a full-on martial arts melee, innit?
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    Extra credit assignment! This just popped up in my in-tray: http://www.neatorama.com/2017/05/22/...haped-America/
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    Quote The Irreverent Mr Black said View Post
    Extra credit assignment! This just popped up in my in-tray: http://www.neatorama.com/2017/05/22/...haped-America/
    The format of this Alpha course and its reliance on Jesus as an historical dude does show the importance of holding each and every piece of evidence for Jesus as a historical dude to scrutiny and disclaimer
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    Quote wadaye said View Post
    The format of this Alpha course and its reliance on Jesus as an historical dude does show the importance of holding each and every piece of evidence for Jesus as a historical dude to scrutiny and disclaimer
    No footholds for bullshit, yay!

    And bullshit, presented by Nice People you've eaten with, folks who are doing their level best to become "community" with you, is still bullshit.
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