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prudie 7th April 2012 12:22 PM

Undeniable Melbourne
 
http://undeniablemelbourne.com/

The fundies are starting to get restless. I have no idea who Ben Price is but I love his quote "If God were not true I must be insane."

I am excited as they claim to have "Undeniable proof" of god's existence.

Jin-oh Choi 7th April 2012 01:00 PM

Re: Undeniable Melbourne
 
I know that askegg, will be around the Suday night, so will I. So I'm planning to go.

They will be handing out "ASK ME MY STORY." t-shirts. I'll be wearing one of these. :)

http://www.jin-ohchoi.id.au/images/WWJD_Tags.jpg

Podblack 7th April 2012 01:32 PM

Re: Undeniable Melbourne
 
They'll be at the other end of the city with a rally? As long as they're not boring their kids by standing with a sign out the venue and dissapointing everyone with "irreducible complexity" as the best argument they can come up with. I remember everyone being rather crestfallen after that: "go on! Give us another one! No? Darn."

Podblack 7th April 2012 01:56 PM

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The Irreverent Mr Black said (Post 288486)
Of course, it would be comedy gold to see Heresy in his full-on JC drag, posing for photos with a bunch of protestors.

DISCLAIMER: Do not attempt stunts with Happy Fun Protestor.

Meh, not keen on giving them that much attention. But a Jesus popping up is always amusing!

mophosophical 16th April 2012 12:36 AM

Re: Undeniable Melbourne
 
I was there along with a few other GAC attendees, I ended up debating them for at least an hour and a half, I loved it :p Don't worry, I was nice :)

edit: And so were they, it might be worth adding.

Keith_W 16th April 2012 01:52 AM

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I went there too. I had a number of rewarding conversations with a few Christians. I took to heart the message from Dr. Cannold that we should build bridges with moderate Christians because they oppose many of the same things that we oppose.

I deliberately marked myself out by wearing my lanyard and badge. I went in with a strategy of appearing non-threatening, finding common ground, and minimizing our differences.

It didn't take long for a few curious Christians to ask me what happened at the GAC. I replied that I went because I was concerned about the effects of some of the more radical aspects of religion on society, and emphasized that I was not against religion itself. "I totally respect you, and admire you for standing up for what you believe in" (Not really true, but very effective to make your opponent lower their guard).

I then went on to name some of the aspects that I found worrying - the rise of radical Islam, the teaching of Creationism in schools, the opposition to same sex marriage, the denial of women's rights, the harmful effects of the denial of contraception, opposition to stem cell research, as well as some things which had nothing to do with religion - global warming skepticism, alternative medicine, vaccination skepticism, pyramid marketing schemes, and opposition to genetically modified food technology. I pointed out that they may not agree with everything on my list, but those things are on my list precisely because if they are left unchallenged, real harm will result.

By the time I finished my spiel, I had nearly everyone gathered around me nodding their heads in agreement. Which was a very nice feeling.

One or two came up to proselytize, but I brushed them off by saying - "I am not here to attack you or your beliefs. In other words, I respect you. I ask that my respect be reciprocated, if you don't mind. Going down this path will be unpleasant for both of us, and I do not want that. We can talk about other things, if you like".

We are never going to make some of them give up their beliefs. But we can recruit the moderates to our side, and we can demonstrate that atheists are not as threatening as they may think.

Mentally Saturated 16th April 2012 01:57 AM

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Good job, Keith.

Much better to actually demonstrate that the claims of our critics are false. Actions speak louder than words, as someone once said.

Gary

BlueDevil 16th April 2012 08:42 AM

Any estimate of numbers that attended, even if in vague terms such as huge, moderate, small, tiny etc?

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Lord Blackadder 16th April 2012 01:06 PM

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BlueDevil said (Post 291157)
Any estimate of numbers that attended, even if in vague terms such as huge, moderate, small, tiny etc?

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Approximately four thousand for the conference, two thousand for dinner on Saturday night. :)

TING 16th April 2012 08:16 PM

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BlueDevil said (Post 291157)
Any estimate of numbers that attended, even if in vague terms such as huge, moderate, small, tiny etc?
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I walked through Fed Square on my way to meet friends at around 7:15pm and I reckon there wouldn't have been any more than 100 or so people gathered around the stage. Certainly not 4000 anyway. ;)


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