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Blue Lightning 18th September 2015 06:36 AM

President Donald Trump
So many places this could go -Belief Central? Anti-Equality? Pseudo-science? I'm lost for choices.

Let's start with the stupid but scary -

Trump: I'll make US military so big and great, nobody will mess with us video

The stupid and balmy -

Donald Trump catches the anti-vaccine bug


Donald Trump, opened a new front in his war on consensus: vaccination.

In his typically rambling way he linked vaccination schedules to autism, telling an audience of 23 million, "You take this little beautiful baby, and you pump I mean, it looks just like it is meant for a horse, not for a child, and we had so many instances, people that work for me, just the other day, 2-years-old, beautiful child went to have the vaccine and came back and a week later got a tremendous fever, got very, very sick, now is autistic."

But, for pure, appalling, offensiveness, it was hard to go past Trump's treatment of Carly Fiorina, one of the other GOP candidates. I won't post what he said. Here's her response:

Carly Fiorina responds to Trump's comments about her face video


pipbarber 18th September 2015 09:50 AM

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This thread is overdue. I'm spoiled for options.

How about he'd date his daughter she's so good looking

robertkd 18th September 2015 09:59 AM

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But the real scary part is that he may one day be the president of the USA . :facepalm:

pipbarber 18th September 2015 01:38 PM

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My hope is that he just gets over the line for the republican nomination on the basis that he simply has to say something so utterly moronic that he'll get trounced in the election. Its a risk of course.

Weirdly i've been quite impressed with Jeb Bush. He seems kind of intelligent and reasonably well balanced and educated from what i've seen. Just from wiki, his history in Florida is perhaps not all bad. Did ok with education and introduced some environmentally beneficial bills and is criticised by the tea-party for not being conservative enough!

On the other hand he's pro-life and there seems to be a bit of a wiff about some of his business dealings but compared to his old man and his ridiculous brother i'd say he's much better than they were. But he's only third in the race.

However, yes...Trump as president is a terrifying prospect.

wearestardust 18th September 2015 03:54 PM

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I look at all the Republican potential candidates and, as the saying goes, I can't even ...

The most gobsmacking thing, in general, is conservatives (including Scalia, who is ON the bench!) saying things to the effect that the legislature should have power unfettered by the Constitution. Can you imagine if a Dem said that?

The irony of this given the whole anglo-American experiment, in terms of the early British colonists and then the Revolution thang, was about freedom and rule of law. Again, given the supposed love of conservative for these origins, I more or less can't deal with this this information one go - it's more than my on-board processing can handle - without screwing up my face so much in disbelief that it hurts.

Trump. I can't even. The unfathomable thing is not, however, that he exists and thinks that he can be politician; that's a dime a dozen circumstance. What is unfathomable is that he has a sincere following.

ausGeoff 19th September 2015 06:03 AM

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robertkd said (Post 533233)
But the real scary part is that he may one day be the president of the USA.

Nope. Simply because he's channeling Barry Goldwater's "nuke 'em till they glow".

Blue Lightning 19th September 2015 06:55 PM

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Donald Trump rides wave of racism, fails 'Muslim Obama' question


Washington: Donald Trump has drawn condemnation for his response to anti-Muslim comments cast in a question posed to him during a campaign rally in New Hampshire.

After calling for questions from supporters the first man given a microphone by a Trump campaign staffer stood and said: "We have a problem in this country, and it is called Muslims".

"We know our current President is one," the man continued, "and you know he is not even an American."

At this point the US presidential hopeful nodded and said: "We need this question."

As the crowd laughed, the man, who was wearing a Trump campaign T-shirt, added: "You know we have training camps growing, where they want to kill us. That's my question, when are we going to get rid of them?"

Asked about the comments later in the day the Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton said she was appalled.

"Not only was it out of bounds, it was untrue. He should have from the beginning corrected that kind of rhetoric, that level of hatefulness," Mrs Clinton said.

Mr Trump's fellow Republican, Lindsey Graham, also a candidate for presidential nomination, said it was a defining moment.

"At the end of the day, this is a defining moment for Mr Trump. The man in that audience has to be put in his place by the person who is answering the question," the South Carolina senator said on MSNBC.

I am going to resist post : puke : smilies, for fear they'll run out

Strato 19th September 2015 11:30 PM

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I think putting Trump in the same room with Putin might have frightening consequences.

Conversely I think Clinton would talk reason into the demagogue Putin.

China is militarising and Japan is claiming its right to self defence, voting 148 to 90, and against vocal public opposition.

Trump has a hard on for power. He's delusional. He represents all that is obnoxious in the USA.

I would like to hear Sam Harris's thoughts on this.

odd 20th September 2015 10:18 AM

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It is an interesting insight into the American political landscape - but I do not believe for a second that Trump has any real chance of ever being the President.

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robertkd 20th September 2015 11:58 AM

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ausGeoff said (Post 533306)
Nope. Simply because he's channeling Barry Goldwater's "nuke 'em till they glow".

Maybe, stranger things have happened and he does have a lot of support.

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