R18+ plus game rating

[Jez]

I was wondering what people believe should be done about the game rating debate happening at the moment.

I'm not over 18 so I can't really comment aside from saying that if I was over 18 I would very much wish for a new R18 rating. Anyone here disagree?

Some people are saying that if we have an R18 rating we will have games in Australia that are extremely violent. I would just like to stress that this is not the case, sure some more explicit games will come in but you will find that the majority will just be games that are currently MA and should really be upped to a R18 rating.

[stewiegriffin81]

I was wondering what people believe should be done about the game rating debate happening at the moment.

I'm not over 18 so I can't really comment aside from saying that if I was over 18 I would very much wish for a new R18 rating. Anyone here disagree?

Some people are saying that if we have an R18 rating we will have games in Australia that are extremely violent. I would just like to stress that this is not the case, sure some more explicit games will come in but you will find that the majority will just be games that are currently MA and should really be upped to a R18 rating.

Yes, there should clearly be a rating for games regarded to be 'adult only'. The average gamer is an adult, and it is ridiculous to currently censor games that are made for the average user.

Additionally, I don't personally think that any form of media should be censored unless there is significant evidence of harm (for which there is little, except for things like child pornography).

[IVPITER]

Games are educational tools for killing zombies and what will happens when the zombie apocalypse arrives? Australia will be the only western democracy unprepared and we will be the ones that suffer for the short sightedness of those in power.

[gruber]

Some people are saying that if we have an R18 rating we will have games in Australia that are extremely violent. I would just like to stress that this is not the case, sure some more explicit games will come in but you will find that the majority will just be games that are currently MA and should really be upped to a R18 rating.


I love how they tried to ban the AvP game cause its "violent" but allow a game with strong christian themes in which you get to kill unbaptised babies, without any opposition

[owheelj]

Yeah it's ridiculous that we don't have an R rating for video games. I don't know what we can do about it. Voting for the far left political parties obviously, but that's about it. Unfortunately it's just not an issue major political parties care about, or think is worth votes. A really dedicated person should start a campaign - create a website and contact all the major video game distributors and developers in Australia - get funding from them and put lots of advertising for the issue everywhere. Definitely achievable, but it would require a very politically savvy person with lots of time on their hands.

[gruber]

If they ban violent video games image who dangerous it would be to walk down the streets since people dont have a outlet for their aggression:rolleyes:

[SlayerLord]

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/group.php?gid=174925014675&ref=ts

Check out these guys. They started a political party in Adhellaide on the subject. Very willing to help ya. :D

[knowledge is power]

but allow a game with strong christian themes in which you get to kill unbaptised babies, without any opposition
What the?
What game is this?

[gruber]

What the?
What game is this?


Dante's Inferno

[AWarGuy]

I strongly agree with a R18+ rating.
People who oppose this say that they want to protect the childern, well in their case they failed.
Examples such as Gears of War 2 it is extremely violent and bloody for a young gamer (I'm 15 don't worry about me ) , Fallout 3 only got Refused Classification because of Drug references and didn't focus on the disembering body parts, sexual references etc. Left 4 Dead 2 , they censored the hell out of it but people can still change it to uncensored at the change of a number, I've seen the uncensored copy of Left 4 Dead and its nothing compared to other games that have been allowed in Australia.

The only parties that disagree with an R18+ are :

Christian Lobby Group
Family First
Catholic Bishops

And any other Family or Christian groups.
Also EB games did a survey and 98% of Australians support R18+ rating ( out of over 59,000 submissions.)

I'm a PC gamer and fully support an R18+ rating.

[gruber]

Fear 2 was also censored which cut a huge chunk out of gameplay time

[Jez]

The only parties that disagree with an R18+ are :

Christian Lobby Group
Family First
Catholic Bishops

And any other Family or Christian groups.

What a surprise.

[Mentally Saturated]

If they ban violent video games image who dangerous it would be to walk down the streets since people dont have a outlet for their aggression:rolleyes:

I'm not so sure that there's ever been any evidence suggesting that playing a violent computer game reduces an aggressive person's tendancies to be aggressive, but there may be evidence to suggest the opposite. And I'm not sure many of those people would play games like that specifically (or mostly) for the purpose of "calming themselves down", anyway.

If anything, I'd say there's plenty of evidence to suggest that certain games can excite players to extreme levels. I've been there myself.. with racing simulators... to the point of blood pressure going thru the roof and having chest pains whilst racing. Of course, this is quite different to the issue U raised tho... regarding violence. Suffice to say, these things have the power to manipulate us in many ways.. some good, and some disturbing.

Gary

[gruber]

They seem to forget that parents who own the consoles can enable a feature that doesnt allow certain rated games to be played but bop the christian lobby has to protect us from zombie boies laying around but not killing unbaptised children

[Senexis]

I think AWarGuy nailed it. We live in an age where we have access to whatever media we want. Want a DVD-quality copy of Star Trek without paying? No problem. Chinese Democracy? Gimme 20 minutes. Some German wench shagging her Dalmatian? Easy as pie.*

(*pie is good. I like pie)

The clowns arrayed against this have no idea. NO IDEA. What, do they think they can turn away ships at port? Smooth those doilies, granny, and drag your arse into the 21st Century. Not only are you confused about what the target demographic is, you're confused about what a R18+ rating does.

It doesn't stop Bart Simpson from getting into the movies. Bart doesn't do that anymore. It DOES give his folks a guide as to whether they should allow and/or guide him when he visits the Playstation Store (online, in case you didn't catch that, Esther).

Bart will have what he wants, whether Conroy or Atkinson want it or not. Bart knows infinite fuckloads more than both of them about proxy servers and anonymous routing. Denying an R18+ rating in Oz doesn't slow Bart down, it does exactly the opposite, by ensuring his acquiring of Zombie Hooker Apocalypse IV is both clandestine and illegal.

Bart is so far beyond having to be a part of the system it's not funny. They should be enticing him in, rather than making sure he stays out.

[gruber]

http://www.news.com.au/technology/gaming/ban-lifted-it-only-took-10-years-but-government-gives-r18-video-games-the-go-ahead/story-e6frfrt9-1226271652456

What's that at the end of the cesspoll the christian and "family" lobby groups have been dragging adult gamers through? Is it the end in sight? Is it the government allowing adults to make their own decisions? Can it possbily be a R rating for games :eek:

[Iseeyouthere]

Those who say that no R rating for games is to protect the kiddies are assholes and doing more harm.

Why?

Because violent games skip under the MA15+ level and the kiddies get exposed to that. Under 18s still see violence and the like which is meant for adults.

And if you are too dumb to realise that an R rated games is not the best choice to give to your kid... then you are a terrible parent.

The rating are there to protect us, not to encourage us.

[Dane]

It's getting quite close... and everyone who actually campaigned or did their part for it can pat theirselves on the back. We did our part and got the wheels of democracy rolling.

In their own unique way, at least...

I'm still wondering if they're keeping MA15+. I think it's a useless rating, honestly. M, then R sounds right to me.

[gruber]

now observe as society tears itself apart

[Iseeyouthere]

Time to rise this thread from the grave!

Australia is getting an adult R18+ rating.
http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/gamers-get-adults-only-r18-classification/story-e6frfku0-1226399228661

[rayne]

YEAH! My time just became more wasted between playing the Playstation and fighting to get control of the Playstation to play it.