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Duffy
12th January 2009, 02:36 PM
If more Americans would admit to cheating on their partner than admit to atheism.. do the Yanks have the right to claim religious freedom?

Thomas Jefferson said "Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call to her tribunal every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there is one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear"

Sad, when you consider photos like this. Hope the photo appears below:(

http://photos1.blogger.com/img/97/2368/640/god%20hates%20fags.jpg

Vonnie
12th January 2009, 06:20 PM
No, it didn't show... But my interest was piqued!

I tried to post the photo for you - by rightclicking on the red X where the photo should have been, and clicking on Properties, it shows the URL of the photo - but it didn't work for me either; I got the red X too, when I previewed the post before posting.

So, instead, here's the link: http://photos1.blogger.com/img/97/2368/640/god%20hates%20fags.jpg

It's obviously the evil Westboro Baptist Church knob-jobs...

Protium
12th January 2009, 06:35 PM
I have a feeling that Blogger use code to stop linking to their sites. I guess it takes a load off their server.

I downloaded the picture and attached it to this post.

But to add a picture inside a post, you'll need a hosting service account like Flickr or PhotoBucket etc and post the URL they give you when you upload a file to your account :)

Vonnie
12th January 2009, 07:16 PM
Well, the photo in Duffy's original post has magically appeared (and it's still got the blogger.com URL) so I'd say there must have just been a temporary glitch.

(Prote, I've found that you can grab any photo/graphic from any site by right-clicking on the pic, clicking on Properties, then pasting in the URL into Insert Image. Have you actually ever been blocked with this method? That would piss me off!)

Protium
12th January 2009, 07:47 PM
That's weird. I can't see a pick in the OP.

I'm not aware of being blocked before. But I'm sure I read somewhere there is code to stop it.

AFAIK, I lot of sites don't appreciate people linking images from their site as it puts more stress on their server for little reward. Links with page URLs are good however.

And of course if the images' server is slow it will slow your forum experience, while it waits for a response. :(

Personally I don't care either way but I think it best to host a copy of the image in your own account on a dedicated image service site. It would be better for the forum.

Added note after previewing... I can already see a loss of preview page view speed while it looks for an image from the googleblogger server. :(

Duffy
12th January 2009, 08:52 PM
Sorry didn't mean to cause a techno headache. I am a net novice at best. Thanks for putting pic on for me. I tried to find the one with the 2 little girls wearing the same t-shirt but I couldn't find it again. Poor kids... that's bloody child abuse.

Duffy
12th January 2009, 08:56 PM
Well, the photo in Duffy's original post has magically appeared (and it's still got the blogger.com URL) so I'd say there must have just been a temporary glitch.

Hi Vonnie, a glitch you say? Could it be magic or perhaps a miracle. It is far too boring calling it a tech problem when a supernatural phenonemon is so much more interesting.

Protium
12th January 2009, 09:06 PM
Hi Vonnie, a glitch you say? Could it be magic or perhaps a miracle. It is far too boring calling it a tech problem when a supernatural phenonemon is so much more interesting.

Bloody hell Duffy, you've only been here 5 minutes and you've broken the damn forum!

You need to press the any key next time ;-)

Godless Ray
12th January 2009, 09:24 PM
Duffy,

Maybe they can make a claim of sorts on religious freedom, but mainly if it's Christian. What they don't have is atheistic freedom. They could really use that my friend.


Godless

Vonnie
12th January 2009, 11:22 PM
That's weird. I can't see a pick in the OP.

It's still there!

AFAIK, I lot of sites don't appreciate people linking images from their site as it puts more stress on their server for little reward. Links with page URLs are good however.

And of course if the images' server is slow it will slow your forum experience, while it waits for a response. :(

Personally I don't care either way but I think it best to host a copy of the image in your own account on a dedicated image service site. It would be better for the forum.

Added note after previewing... I can already see a loss of preview page view speed while it looks for an image from the googleblogger server. :(

Dang. This dog is too old to change its ways. It takes too much extra effort to save the image to your PC, then upload it to Flickr, then copy and past the URL... Much easier just to right click on the image and then copy and paste the URL. AFAIC, if those websites don't want the millions of people that copy their images everday to do so, they can put a watermark on the images (as some sites do) or use that code your talking about. :p

Vonnie

Duffy
13th January 2009, 10:32 AM
Well the website www.godhatesfags.com (http://www.godhatesfags.com) is MIA too. Maybe the Allah crew has claimed copyright on the word 'hate'?

Duffy
13th January 2009, 10:34 AM
Duffy,

Maybe they can make a claim of sorts on religious freedom, but mainly if it's Christian. What they don't have is atheistic freedom. They could really use that my friend.


Godless

Thank God that he loves all his creatures!

Kieran
13th January 2009, 12:51 PM
Maybe they can make a claim of sorts on religious freedom, but mainly if it's Christian. What they don't have is atheistic freedom. They could really use that my friend.

Of course it's mainly Christian. The religious freedom of America was the compromise by which many Christianities could exist in a single state.

The enlightenment followed the bloody fight for hegemony amongst religions that followed the collapse of catholic hegemony with the reformation, catholics vs protestants etc. Think spanish armada, persecution in England, Hugenots in France, Sweden's invasion of Poland, etc etc. These tensions and conflicts were rife in the new world as well.

Not exactly a profitable state of affairs.

Secularism is a religious compromise, which allows the state and capital to get on with business. America's secularism was all about pragmatism and had little to do with idealism. Think of the first amendment as a deal amongst religions, not between religion and irreligion. Oh no, tolerance of atheism was never part of the bargain!

Fiery
13th January 2009, 01:41 PM
Kieran, I've never heard it put quite like that before. Interesting point. Will have to give that one some thought. :) Cheers!!!!!

Duffy
13th January 2009, 02:28 PM
Think of the first amendment as a deal amongst religions, not between religion and irreligion. Oh no, tolerance of atheism was never part of the bargain!

I hear you and haven't the Americans paid the price? All those Ra Ra Religions that have to get crazier and crazier to attract their piece of the god-fearing pie.