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31st March 2010, 12:18 PM
Alright I thought the shroud of turin had be proven to be a fake on several occasions, there appears to be no common sense when xtians consider faith??
Now if anyone else came out with nefarious wishy washy nonsense they would be labelled as being off with the pixies?
So technology that maps a face Ok,
Technology that defines the age of the shroud of turin, dismissable
31st March 2010, 12:29 PM
Alright I thought the shroud of turin had be proven to be a fake on several occasions,
there appears to be no common sense when xtians consider faith??
31st March 2010, 01:00 PM
The History Channel (http://www.history.com/shows) will reveal the image -- and the painstaking and technical process of finding it -- tonight at 9 p.m. ET in the special "The Real Face of Jesus?"
Viewers should be prepared: The results achieved through the convergence of science and religion doesn't resemble the popularized images of Jesus.
I have managed to get a copy of the face the theist computer reconstructed and will share it with you. Don't tell anyone as that would spoil their surprise. Remember this is the true face of jesus, don't feel embarrassed if you fall to the ground in reverence and awe.
31st March 2010, 01:19 PM
Yeah this was already proven to be fake, but even if this was real, who says it is even Jesus? There is no proof at all that it could be. It's not like the crucifixion story is original or unique, many people were hung on a cross in those days, many also worshipped in the same way Jesus was.
1st April 2010, 10:28 AM
To use Dawkins' term, it just goes to show the undeserved respect that religion has. Carbon dating is usually the final word on the authenticity of materials and claims. As all of us (i assume) are aware (and has been mentioned) the cloth was dated to the medieval period. If this was anything else that would be it...but no, because it's supposed to be a figure of religious worship that isn't the final word.
What sort of planet are we all living on anyway?
5th April 2010, 04:12 PM
You can not be rational with people who use their belief in the irrational to frame their worldview.
5th April 2010, 04:48 PM
Even the bloody Catholic Church call the Turin Shroud a fake, and they've been doing so for centuries - pretty much since the thing was first mooted as a relic. It was a bloody Bishop or some such, and relative of the bastards who were marketing it back in the 1300's (I think... will find sources if anyone asks) who first declared it a load of lineny bollocks and told his cousin to stop making a fucking fool of himself and the Church by waving around such an obvious bloody forgery.
5th April 2010, 05:01 PM
first declared it a load of lineny bollocks
How much do I love this phrase?! :D
and told his cousin to stop making a fucking fool of himself and the Church by waving around such an obvious bloody forgery.
So why stop there with the sheet? The Church has been touting around forged relics for aeons (hands up who went to a catholic school where their church had a "piece of the one true cross" or "a genuine bone from St Thingummyjig")? :rolleyes:
5th April 2010, 05:27 PM
So why stop there with the sheet?
Indeed, I to need a new bed-linen set and was wondering if the Shroud of Turin had a 1,000 thread count...
5th April 2010, 05:53 PM
Now there's a business opportunity. Turin shroud copies as real bedsheets. Pay a bit more and get them in satin. Why stick with fake jesus, there's a whole world of self-important minor celebrities out there. The shroud of Tiger Woods in red satin, there's got to be a market for that. The Bill Clinton shroud, with real cigar burns, a bit old maybe. The Kevin Rudd shroud, in over-starched basic cotton. The Hitchens shroud, where the eyes seem to follow you around the room. The sky's the limit.
6th April 2010, 05:34 PM
This shroud business is so tiresome, yet comical.:rolleyes:
11th April 2010, 06:56 AM
Yes folks, they're at it again. The city of Turin is literally airing their dirty laundry for the world to see.
Shroud of Turin goes on display for first time in decade
The city of Turin rolled out the red carpet Saturday as the Shroud of Turin, believed by many to be the burial cloth of Jesus Christ, went on public display for the first time in a decade.
Some two million people are expected to view one of the most revered relics in Christendom - and among the most disputed - over the next six weeks in this northern Italian city.
Now, I don't know much about the city of Turin. I'm sure I could learn a whole bunch simply by looking it up on WikiPedia, but I'm gonna go out on a limb here and suggest that Turin is a bit of a dump, and that there's nothing much more going for this place other than this fake remnant. And I say this only because I cannot understand why the local government of a town would insist on perpetuating a myth.
Oh, but wait, the fact that it's a fake would continue to be reason to perpetuate the myth.. both Christians who refuse to believe that it's a fake, and those that do believe it's a fake but don't care, make up a large portion of the huge amounts of money it brings into the city. We certainly can't blame Turin for wanting to boost their tourism, especially if that's all they have going for them.
However, what they should be doing is erecting some bloody big signs around the place explaining that it has been determined to be a fake. To do anything less is dishonest not only in a financial/business sense, but also historically/academically/intellectually.
Ya think that's gonna happen ? Not bloody likely.. :mad:
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