Christian terrorists - hundreds massacred, hundreds kidnapped

[davo]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/03/28/2858158.htm

A human rights group says more than 300 people were slaughtered by rebels in the Democratic Republic of Congo late last year.
Human Rights Watch says the massacre, which targeted 10 remote villages, happened last December but went unreported.
They say the Lord's Resistance Army (LRA) hacked hundreds of villagers with machetes and kidnapped hundreds more.
Witnesses say that rebels dressed in military uniforms asked people in remote villages to carry food for them across a river, but killed those who refused with machetes.
One man told reporters the rebels bound him to a tree with wire and beat him.
"After we were taken away to be killed, I was tied up," he said.
"I didn't really know what was going to happen. They stood on my back and pulled my arms back behind me so they could tie me up tightly. My head was on the earth, and they began to hit me with machetes."
It is the worst massacre ever perpetrated by the rebel group, which says it is fighting to create a Christian theocracy in Uganda.
Let us not forget that just like Islam, christianity has its repercussions.

These christian terrorists, the Lords Resistance Army, have killed more people than Al Qaeda, Hamas, and Hezbollah combined.

So when christians point the finger at radical islam, they ignore that their religion produces the same thing.

[gruber]

what is this... Medieval Europe

[atheist echo]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/03/28/2858158.htm

Let us not forget that just like Islam, christianity has its repercussions.

These christian terrorists, the Lords Resistance Army, have killed more people than Al Qaeda, Hamas, and Hezbollah combined.

So when christians point the finger at radical islam, they ignore that their religion produces the same thing.
And it's interesting that we always hear about persecution of Xians in countries like Iraq or North African countries (which of course I would always condemn)yet how many of the tabloid columnists or talkback hosts mention these types of stories?

[davo]

And it's interesting that we always hear about persecution of Xians in countries like Iraq or North African countries (which of course I would always condemn)yet how many of the tabloid columnists or talkback hosts mention these types of stories?

They are pretty much at each others throats. In most of these countries belief runs rampant, and the major problems revolve around poverty, health and education. The education aspect leaves critical thinking on a back step, a gateway to issues revolving around belief which lead to gang type behaviour around power, virtually all organised religion is 'political religion'.

[nari]

And what about the Christian Right wing terrorists who were exposed planning 'retribution' against the US Government?
I heard only a bit of their ploy on the Midday report; it didn't seem to have much to do with Obama's health reforms - just the Democrats in general.

Nice people.....guerilla warfare in the name of christ.

nari

[nari]

Blimey....I'm more naive 'bout looney fringes than I thought..

nari

[atheist_angel]

Thanks for that, Davo.

[atheist echo]

Oh yes, Davo, thanks from me too!:)

[Darwinsbulldog]

I suppose better late than never. Although it will be hard to stop the cycle of violence, even if religions were not involved.

[gruber]

but but but but but but tbuttubtbut they aints reals christians like us

[wolty]

but but but but but but tbuttubtbut they aints reals christians like us

Yes Grubes, we all get the no true Scotsman thingy.

I luvs ya Grubes. You have an innate sense of reality, right and wrong and can cut to the core issues of what is happening in the world very very quickly.

But sometimes I wish you would let the total of what is in you head, out. You have a lot to say, you also have a lot to learn. Give it to us. We talked about this before. We want what you got. Please.

[Sir Patrick Crocodile]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/03/28/2858158.htm

Let us not forget that just like Islam, christianity has its repercussions.

These christian terrorists, the Lords Resistance Army, have killed more people than Al Qaeda, Hamas, and Hezbollah combined.

So when christians point the finger at radical islam, they ignore that their religion produces the same thing.One thing to remember is Islam is based on Christianity so there are a number of similarities. They even believe in Jesus and the crucifixion and all - just not Jesus as the son of God that's all. There are a lot of differences yes, but if all the Arabic was translated into English (eg. Allah -> God and Eesa -> Jesus and Yusef -> Joseph etc) then you'll see extreme amounts of similarity between the two religions.

I am not surprised that christian terrorists exist either. I think one thing to point out is that while Islam is a violent religion, christians really have little right to point at muslims, because it is the christian religion that was the start of radical Islam in the first place.

Islam came about in around 622 or so (which is the epoch for the Hijri calendar) - and the Quran mentions wars just like the Bible does. Of course one could argue it is actually more peaceful, since punishments are not actually specified in the Qur'an where stoning is specified in the Bible for example.

Also from my experiences muslims tend to follow more of Islam than christians tend to follow of Christianity so it makes Christianity look more "lightweight" than Islam is. In reality none of them know what they are in for.

That being said I always knew Christian terrorists existed. You rarely hear about them for some reason though. Or at least you rarely hear about them as "terrorists" as such. Heck there is probably an "Al Phelps-ul-Fatwa" family out there too.

[gruber]

what i think, it is sick, twisted, wrong. Sure these people wont stop until the army kills them but then you have to educate the people who are left behind and had contact with these people because the fucked up ones way of thinking that you can kill anyone that doesnt believe in what you do, may have started t think that way or a "might is right". Sending military is only half the job, educating the people so they dont fall into these militia groups is the other half

[Darwinsbulldog]

Even that is not enough Gruber...we need an end of faith: in religions, ideology, money, even sport.

[gruber]

education is a step towards people forming evidence based thoughts that doing everything possible to obtain power and wealth isnt very beneficial. People need to get in a mindset "If it doesnt help you or someone else, DONT FUCKING DO IT"

[gruber]

but then again a religion will come along or company to exploit the people or natural resources and some people will truly think that it is in their best interests to get screwed over as long as they get some water splashed on them or a crap load of villages flooded out so a electric dam can be built

[gruber]

I was using the incident in brazil (think it was brazil, some south america country) where one side has gotten their way and the natvies have had their homes destroyed for a hyrdoelectric dam to be built.

People are being screwed over in south Africa and think its a good thing espically with the "Witch Children" incident thats still happening. Communities think their getting rid a cause of evil while children are being murdered

[Xeno]

I am not sure what the hydro-electric dam has to do with it?

I seem to recall we sank Jindabyne for a lake, we avoided flooding the Franklin and so on. Hydro is a damn good way to produce electricity, something for which I would happily inundate mansions. It depends on the particular impact that arises on people and the environment.

[cyclist]

That being said I always knew Christian terrorists existed. You rarely hear about them for some reason though. Or at least you rarely hear about them as "terrorists" as such. Heck there is probably an "Al Phelps-ul-Fatwa" family out there too.

We saw the reluctance to yell terrorist with Anders Breivik in Norway, despite him doing something that would have had someone from Islam or the Middle East labelled as a terrorist, he was instead labelled as a gunman.

James